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17 hours ago
Straight White/Caucasian Female, 51
Straight White/Caucasian Male, 54
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Quote by blougat
Playcouple as you said under this rule they will be kicked out, you further said why not verify plane meeting on cam, the question is, this is a way of verifying people they can meet a Mod on cam and they will be verify.
The question are why this people you met not do as you asked, because there are no pressure to verify.
There are a lot of good members but how would every one know that if they do not do some or other way to make the system works better.
Not critices you only looking to a way to get rid of so called bullshitters and that can be anyone single males, single females or couples.
In the +/- ten years we have been swinging and on various swinging sites, and from around 20 years of meeting people of the internet and being on various sites we have built up a bit of experience. So our two cents worth comes from lots of experience.
None of the proposals that have been made by various people in forums on many sites are new, that we an say with certainty as we have seen them many many times before. The 30 day rule etc we have seen implemented and it does not work. Years ago the only way to get verified was to meet mods in person, usually over a meal or a few drinks, nowadays this is easier because of the widespread availability and use of webcams, but not everyone wants to go that route, so verify them yourself over cam i you want. One problem with the 30 day rule (or any other time span) is that people register and then get cold feet, then they come back at a later stage when curiosity gets to them again (a year down the line?) and then set up a profile. To be honest what difference does it make if someone has pics or not, have a completed profile or not, have been verified or not? We are all adults here, we have a level of intelligence where we can make our own decisions. The tools on this site are there for you as a user to make an informed decision about a profile or what the parameters are of the profiles you will contact or reply to. As said before, on the paysites and the sites that have a very strict policy the people tend to be snobs and have a sense of entitlement so there are even more issues there.
A good start when trawling to find someone to contact or approach is to see when last they were active (this is on their profile), then to look at how complete/incomplete their profile is (also on their profile) then to see if you fit into what they say on their profile (also on their profile), to see if they have pics (also on their profile) if they don't make up your own mind if you want to contact them or not and lastly if you have contacted them go on cam with them to make sure that they are what you expect and for them to make sure you are what they expect.
When being contacted by someone, they have been recently active, which means (for dunces) that they are active on the site. Most contacts are a waste of time (seriously we have a hit rate of under ten percent of contacts that go to actually meeting and that is in spite of us being very selective and upfront - which people have a problem with as well, mostly because people DON'T READ OUR PROFILE IN FULL), deal with it. When contacted by someone take the trouble of reading their profile in full, that means their profile, their adds and if you can have a look at their friends and their friends profiles as well. True some people have hundreds of 'friends, but mostly they are also not very serious about meeting up, if someone has been registered on the site for a month or two and has a 100 friends we tend to pass. Almost every single person/couple on or friends list we know in person, some we have played with and some not, some we have known for many many years from other sites and places, some are just plain good friends and we have not even played with, neither are we likely to play with them, they know this and we know this, but they are good friends. When you have taken the trouble to go though their profile you reply and say 'thanks but no thanks' or 'yup, lets see where this leads'.
It takes a few minutes to go through a profile entirely, so take the trouble and save yourself wasting hours. Honestly you don't have to look at all 400 pics of the guys dick or the woman's boobs, you just have to glance at a few pics and read the rest.
It does not takes weeks of chatting to decide to meet or not to meet, unless schedule wise it is very difficult (which does happen, ask anyone that tried to meet us or even play with us in the last half of last year). If someones schedule is such that they don't have much time to meet people they are going to e even more picky and full of shit about who they do invest their time in. If you see them online often, it does not mean that they are available, it may well be that they are just chilling when they can because they are exhausted, and still taking trouble to reply to pm's. We try make a coffee and chat date within a week of first contact and, if that goes well, a playdate within a week of that again. Most people decide within the first few minutes if they will or will not play with you, but of after an hour of making a good impression you fall off your bar-stool because you have down a bottle of tequila chased by a case of beer, don't be surprised if they avoid or you never hear from them again . And when meeting up each pays for own drinks or what ever go dutch, we mostly do, and if someone has a problem with it then tough for them, find another fish, this is not a dating site and you are not going to marry them.
Quote by Adonis
Stamina,
I must agree with you, my 2 cent to this is that every member on the site must go trough a 30 day trail period.
Can chat in the pool, no whisper and can only look at one cam.
After 30 days a lot will find out they on the wrong site
Abdicating to mods....... We have met some great playmates who are not verified and would be kicked out under this rule, why not just verify people you plane on meeting on cam?
Quote by LeeEC
ALSO If you think about it (you'll really only get this if you're 35 plus) as you get older your body changes and quite frankly younger hotter firmer bodies make a person feel self conscious and "judged" for something there isn't a lot one can do about- even toned fit people get wrinkles!
Ha! there we have it, being over 35, toned and in shape gives you wrinkles, I shall now go finish that blackforest cake with extra cream and ice cream........
Ebnivry wrote:
What is a Racial line?
Does the so called racial line only count when the wives are browsing with their hubby's and when wifey disappears then the hubby's browse through the "Prohibited Profiles" on SH and send their fantacy comments, or maybe its that we want to try new things and write on our profiles " Whites only, We don't cross the racial line etc" just for our other swinging buddies not to look down on us. Come on guys being open minded is exactly that.
Ebnivry : what you asy above with regard hubby/wifey trawling and making comments when the other is away is true of some, but not everyone and is quite a childish opening comment.
You seem to confuse open minded with doing absolutely everything and anything without any regard to preferences, it also smacks of playground emotional bully tactics of the variety of 'if you like me you'll sleep with me'. If I prefer BBW's then surely I'm allowed to say that and turn away the non BBW's, or if I am only interested in slender blondes with purple highlights, the surely I can specify that?
Everyone here has the right to associate with whomever they wish and to not associate with whomsoever they wish and that is something that is lost on people who complain about the following 'we don't cross the colour line', couples that don't play with single guys, and people who don't play with people in relationships that are playing without their partners.........
Quote by LoneRanger
Met a "lady" on here, one half of a supposed couple. met for a drink, then subsequently she contacted me, "I'm so hot for you", wanting to meet for sex. She decided she'd prefer it "in a hotel the first time" so, sucker that I am, I went off, booked a room, paid for it, SMS'd her the room number, got a reply "I'm on my way." I waited. And waited. Tried to call her - call cut off. Sent another SMS, "Where are you?" Nada. Then eventually a reply, "Sorry, I have a meeting at 3pm, I was ready for you at 2, can't make it anymore. I will reimburse you for the hotel." Ja, right! next she will ask for my bank account details...ha ha ha. No, she's not Nigerian either...
What are we supposed to do about these costly fakers? Should I name and shame her profile?
Ehhhmmm maybe she could not make it, maybe her other half (aka other half of the couple) found out and nixed the whole exercise????? Take it as a lesson not to play with one half of a couple..................................
Quote by Mike_Pta
It's always the sexy couples with the great profiles that get the most shit. Just remember the proverbial needle is out there, but a name and shame system will just be a can of worms.
Agreed, just block, ignore them. Name and shame is a a can of worms not to be opened. Turning it into paysite wont work (as I've said before it happens there just as much if not more).
Quote by Newswc
This is for the more "experienced" couples here.
When meeting another couple for playtime for the first time, do you prefer to host at your venue, theirs, or a neutral venue?
Normally we prefer a neutral venue, but had a sitiuation where we hosted and decided not to play and the other couple just hung around and would not leave. The husband kept on trying to convince us to change our minds.
It became quite uncomfortable , but luckily they left after we both were very clear that it was not going to happen.
Please share your experiences both positive and negative!
Many thanks
N&F
Been playing for about ten years, prefer hosting, with couples we will alternate, with singles we will always host. Just a preference, keep in mind we have young kids some of whom are very very parent attached. Hosting also makes it easier in terms of babysitters etc.
Quote by KC_
Lol, yes!
I let it loose when I am on my back, but tie it up as soon as I move into a different position... I can't stand having hair in my face... also, I like to see what is happening without the curtain of hair...
I don't think I look prim when we are done, But I like to think the messy hair adds to the afterglow effect of good sex ;)
;)
C
messy hair : yes, hair in mouth (both/all) during : yes looking prim and proper afterwards : hmmmmmmmmmm
Quote by LeeEC
So so true Lee, I think we're a good looking couple, we take care of ourselves I'm full figured but fit and sexy(so I been told). Then you get these couples where the wife is a looker and the guy is just eww. How the hell am I meant to be turned on by that. And then their attitude is like they gods gift and its just sex wtf is my problem. I rather stick to mr K, thank you very much!
yup and
"What? You don't want me? But I've got a big dick!"
:twisted:
@Stamina.... ah huh? you may just have stepped in some moopoo!
Hubby here. Some of the sexiest women I have ever met were totally obese......... contradiction as I generally go for slender built women. In my misspent adventurous youth I dated models (generally over rated cardboard as in nice to look at but about as sexy as a piece of chewed chappy). So speaking from experience, I think that sex-appeal and sexiness comes from within, that means that an obese woman wearing Lycra shorts and halter top is trying to hard, but wearing things that suit them and oozing that sex-appeal is something else -aka yum, artists call it Rubenesque-, by the same token a stunningly built woman with no inner sex-appeal is a nice sculpture, but personally I think the Venus di Milo, while being a stunning piece of sculpture will be very unpleasant to f*uk and has the conversational skills of a rock.
As for the dick size, well yea, less said the better, whale with missing hygiene + super model eeeeeeew.
We don't actively take care of ourselves beyond hygiene, but we lucky in that we still in good shape.
Quote by Rob_69
Actually when it states in the "what are you looking for" and there are options for:
Straight couple
Couple with bi male
couple with bi female
That would make "straight male" and "bi male" an option that you are searching for A single male for example mmf as it is totally separated from "searching for a couple"
Now when I say single male above that doesn't mean necessarily "single", as it doesn't differentiate between "single" and "attached"...
I can't understand why it would be thought that if you check the following:
Straight couple
Couple with bi male
couple with bi female
And you decide to check "straight/bi male" that you are meaning that that doesn't mean single guys as if you're looking for couples/ladies only then you've already made it clear if the couple you want has to be straight, or if there must be some bisexuality involved
good point, but in spite of us saying very clearly that attached people playing without their partner is not what we are interested in we still get a lot of advances from married people (mostly men)
The majority of the people who participated in my studies reported enjoying their swinging experience. There was no difference between the levels of swinging satisfaction of men and women.
I also found that swingers are very happy in their marriages and have strong emotional bonds with their spouses, strong family units, and aren't looking for additional emotional connections or trying to replace the ones they currently have. Moreover, my respondents claim that their spouses are able to satisfy them sexually: Swinging to them is a way of adding spice and variety to the marriage itself, (some even referred to swing as a 'team sport,' or 'the couple that plays together remains together').
The above is from phsycologytoday, I totally agree with it
Swinging if there is a lack of love or respect will soon have the marriage/relationship solidly on the rocks. That is basically when one or both is looking out for something else without having the guts to end the existing relationship first, don't confuse this with swinging, its window shopping disguised.
You will find that most that have been swinging for a long time, have a healthy sex life in their relationship and don't need to swing for the sake of sex or emotional reasons, they will have sex just as regularly if swinging or not swinging, all of them will have times of high activity, where they run of behind every wall that they pass, to times where they will have sex once or twice a week or less. You will also find that they are still very much in love, the ones that have been swinging for many years will mostly tell you that they do take a break from swinging from time to time, not consciously but just because they are not in the mood for it.
Last 1c. Cheating means you are doing something without your partner's consent, swinging as a couple you are doing it with each other's consent. So maybe your idea of swinging as a form of cheating is misplaced......
Those spellers among you, seeee I didnt make 1 slepping msitake 
Quote by MIKE_
Sounds like a good idea to me, but I would go further and say access should be denied until your profile is fully completed.
An probation period should be introduced, limiting the amount of profiles you can view and contact per day. Additionally access to view cam's in the chatroom should also be limited for the probation period, an example would be that, for the first month a user can only view one cam a day and then increase viewing over say three months.
After the three months probation, their disciplinary record is reviewed and full membership is approved or denied giving them full site access. This would also discourage multiple profiles as each profile would have access restrictions.
Swaggers over with a smile of expectation, and stand next to SDMR.
limiting views per day etc will only frustrate the real ones as well, the verified basis will work, we already apply that ourselves
Quote by farawayman
OK...I have had enough of trying to get laid during a dogging session...In 4 years of regularly dogging I have been only successful twice...So now I have purchased a mother fucking large neon orange kayak and fitted it on my roof...please feel free when you see this kayak to watch me ,touch me ,invite me or whatever....It is a nissan hardbody bakkie...old shape,double cab
Freud would have a field day with this one
Quote by Stamina
My 2 cents:
Keep in mind that checking "straight male" does not equate to "single male"
It could be a preference, just as some couples specifically look for bi males.
;)
C
I have thought of that and it is actually quite irritating that so many make this mistake... But that check box is actually for single males, just called straight males on this site. Many couples "assume" that it is for preference purposes, but actually not. Eg: They check "straight male" and "straight female" thinking that means a couple where both parties are straight, but it actually does not mean that.
This has been raised a few times elsewhere in the forum. This is ambiguous and causes a lot confusion as single guys often interpret it as a single male is welcome, whereas a lot of couples, us included, see it reffering to neither a single male or a male in a couple, but just what kind of male is welcome. However if you read ALL the options together as a cohesive unit, then yes you are entirely correct, but keep in mind that most people read one option at a time, so the rest falls into vacuum between the ears (me included).
Thinking that a specific option for 'single male/female' should be added. Maybe this site is just a social experiment to see how single males interact with others
From experience they get rude and obnoxious about it because so many just dont take a 'thanks but no thanks'. We have had very very insulting and sometimes even threatening replies from people when we have in a nice way told them that they are not what we are interested in, we are unlikely to bethe only ones who have been on the receiving end of someones tirade.
This comes up under so many topics on this forum.
Stamina, reality is that people can choose who and what they want to associate with and niether you nor anyone else has the right to attack them for it. Being here does not mean that women or couples are here to service you or anyone else when you snap your fingers, so if people say no single guys, just move on. As I've said a few times elsewhere why bother if it's going to waste everyone's time. There are a lot of couples here who do play with single men and women.
Quote by Alexthelion
Where to start... Well I want to first say thank you to the SwingingHeaven team for what you have put together. I am not sure about the opinions that people have towards SwingingHeaven, but I personally believe it is the most Amazing, most eye opening place where "like minded people" come together and interact. It has given more availability towards swinging, and allowing people to feel that they are not alone.
What is also a really great aspect that this site provides, is the fact that one can learn from others, no matter how old or attractive a person is. All it takes is to visit someone's Profile, and there is already a story to be told. My apologies for all the profiles that I visited, but the latter statement is what makes me find this site to be so wonderful.
I don't think many realize the effort that the crew of this site puts in to manage this site. How they keep the Fakes way, and manage intruders, and stalkers. And we as members don't have to pay a cent. Thank goodness, otherwise students would not be able to afford to be here in general.
From all the sites options and profiles set up, the thing I love the most is that I know I am not the only swinging human on this planet.
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"Mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get." - Tom Hanks
Welcome, have a ball, you'll enjoy it. As for all those profiles you looked at, only way to find those that will play with you is to look at their profiles ;)
Quote by kawaicouple
Ok so been on this "search" for couples or unicorn(single female) for just over month. We have been disappointed, shocked and teased. We throwing in the towel. We sick and tired. This was meant to be exciting and pleasurable, but turning out to be energy draining.
We have put ads up got view responses from different ppl. There are single women that are just sorry to say "naaaasty", no offence to anyone just not our cuppa tea. People that are into drugs, people that haven't been tested recently. Some are skeptical and say that our pics are fake. Some complain cos we don't do pornographic pics. Even some that say we too goodlooking - (seriously WTF). There are couples that will send pics of their insides showing all, but refuse to send face pics. Folks that send pics and we reply then move to email/chat and realise we are not white. Couples that tell us we over fussy cause we would like to meet up for drinks or coffee first. And don't even get me started on fake pics why why why???
There's been chicks that have only wanted to chat and be with Mr K and males that ask me if I play alone and would I cheat after I say no. Weird responses and questions(can I shit on u), people that are against safe sex and just being safe in general( no drugs/ safe venue). Women that have been too forward regarding Mr K and my relationship.
I can go on and on but sure u get the picture sure...so calling it quits, have more fun/pleasure alone anyway without all this drama.
Hi guys, sorry to hear that you have not had any success yet.
It can be frustrating, esp when people don't bother reading your profile, as for the singles that want to play with one half of the couple, well what can you say.
Hope you have better luck next time round.
P.s. worth sticking around a bit and maybe just checking in every week or two.
Anyway, wishing you the best and a merry x-mas, will also be missing your comments on the forum
