We're busy with Babylon 5, probably do NCIS next
self explanatory but been using it since about 2003/2004
Mike you mean you have a split personality ;) lol
not to be funny, but (you guys are probably bored with this) in the going one 11 years of swinging and meeting people through it and now going on 20 years of meeting people from the net, the sites that worked the best were all free sites.
The problems that are referred to will not be fixed with making this a pay site, the swingers sites that are pay sites (and we have been on the well known ones for extended periods) have the same problems, just magnified. People for some reason think that because they paid to be members they are now ENTITLED and GUARANTEED to meet people purely for sex without having made any previous contact, if you tell them that from profile you are not interested they take exception as they have PAID to meet you and PAID to have sex with you, that entitlement perception is even stronger and therefore much worse when meeting someone in person as they then have that same attitude but directly in your face - basically they see it as a brothel setup BUT with membership fee for a year and therefore unlimited access at the price of going to a brothel once or twice. There has not been a single exception of the above on any paid site that we have been members of.
The free sites that we have been members of have with a few exceptions not had the issue that I described above, the best two sites that we have been members of have both been free sites, this one is included in the best two.
I must add that the other free site did go out of business, with about 15 000 members the revenue generated from adds (very small number of advertisers) was minimal, so to expect the owners of this site to carry it indefinitely is unreasonable. I don't think anyone would mind banner ads or advertising of services or goods, in fact it may well make life easier for those that want to buy things but don't want to go into sex stores. To be honest this is a niche market that has yet to be exploited (but not abused).
On that basis if this were to become a paid site, we would see how it goes, but to be honest and from our previous experiences, would probably leave it after a few months
here we go again ...............
Its about preference, as for the first post statements of "TRUE swingers", true swinging is keeping to what you enjoy and giving the others in the community the freedom to do what they enjoy without judging them, if you have a difference of needs or likes/dislikes, rather find someone else.
Why should someone tell us that because we only play together in the same room that we are not really swingers (after erm 11 years of playing please note), which has happened.
As for Lee's comments on most people here being relatively new, I cant agree more and its people who judge - or lambaste - them because they are cautious that givers them experiences which are unpleasant. Each person and each couple will grow it at their own tempo, and that means they start at boundaries and push this side and that side til they find a boundary that they do not enjoy crossing, give them that freedom and very few will walk away. Force the "TRUE swingers do it like this or that" and they will go away with unpleasant memories.
A good surgeon and a proper boob job wont look or unnatural, that means insert is done under the arm and below the muscles, then you don't have the boobjob balloon look, ex gf of mine had them done like that, so speaking from experience, and a size up is still workable
Loved pregnant sex, find pregnant women very sexy and was present at birth of all our kids.....and we have quite a few. In all cases we were having sex till the day before birth (same day even)
Just for meet and / or play, not more than 50/60 km, tried the longer distance and was total f***up, once we had to cancel last minute (luckily before anyone had left) and each couple would have had to travel better part of 500km, few other times we have traveled and the others have traveled and mostly when meeting ended up not being compatible at all.
Nowadays shorter travel so regular get together (friends with benefits etc as Lee said). Must add though that if we in an area we would be quite happy to meet and play with people in that area.