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Quote by Stamina
I am wanting to change the tube on my bicycle tyre, it is the front wheel and it has quick release callipers.
Can someone (or in the case of this site, everyone) please give me advice . . . .

Here it is in 20 easy steps...
Step 1. Remove front wheel.
Step 2. Remove tyre from rim.
Step 3. Drink a beer.
Step 4. Remove tube from tyre.
Step 5. Drink a beer.
Step 6. Insert new tube in tyre.
Step 7. Drink a beer.
Step 8. Repair hole in new tube caused by drinking 3 beers.
Step 9. Drink a beer.
Step 10. Take bicycle to cycle shop for repair.
Step 11. Return home and drink a beer.
Step 12. Collect bike from cycle shop.
Step 13. Buy a six pack of beer with the change from paying for the repair.
Step 14. Drink a beer.
Step 15. Ride repaired bicycle in your underpants around town.
Step 16. Phone a friend for bail money.
Step 17. Drink a beer.
Step 18. Sell bicycle for beer money.
Step 19. Stock pile cases of beer.
Step 20. Drink a beer!!
You left out a very important step: LOG ONTO A SEX SWINGER SITE AND DISCUSS THE FUCKEN WEATHER
Quote by redbruce
I am wanting to change the tube on my bicycle tyre, it is the front wheel and it has quick release callipers.
Can someone (or in the case of this site, everyone) please give me advice . . . .

So, SDMR, just how far was your tongue in your cheek when you posted this? wink
:wink: must say, I have been left speechless
Quote by VampEC1
Hello everyone. ....
This looks like the place to be :-D
Why am I here? Well....My partner wants to swing and is trying to convince me.
To be quite honest I'm struggling to wrap my head around this.
Is swinging not like cheating? Maybe you can enlighten me?
VampEC1

it is generally only considered cheating if you do anything without your partners knowledge.
Quote by Adonis
SDMR you asked for it. now you can get busy

Yes, but that's nothing, you should see all the useful info I got on sex from the Bicycle Weekly website. banghead
Needless to say, I feel a slow and gradual departure in the near future . . . .
I am wanting to change the tube on my bicycle tyre, it is the front wheel and it has quick release callipers. Can someone (or in the case of this site, everyone) please give me advice . . . .
Quote by roving_scot

I often wonder if "potential meets" never happened because of things I have said here. People can be very judgemental and even ignorant, taking things the wrong way. I believe I am right in always saying what is on my mind but maybe sometimes its a bad idea? You have a point there my friend...

What? you mean like discussing what firearm you carry and what damage a specific bullet will do to you? NAH, I cannot see why that would make anybody not want to meet with you?
I'm sure there are some people that might find the guns and sex thing highly erotic lol
Perhaps, but then I am pretty sure they would ALSO talk about sex in the forum . . . . . .
Quote by roving_scot
I don't think it's necessarily wrong to bring up other topics here that are not sex related. Sure, this is a sex and swinging site, but it seems like there are many people here who are not just here for the sex, but also for the friendship and even camaraderie you get with like-minded people, and I think that an important part of friendship is the ability to honestly exchange views and opinions on any sort of topic.
Due to the nature of the site, most forum topics will probably be sex related, and that is probably as it should be, but if someone wants to start a conversation on something serious like the elections or something random like their pet cats, I would say go right ahead. It doesn't mean that everyone else needs to join in, but if someone else also loves talking about their pet cats or the merits of Zille vs Zuma, then that's great, they've got something in common to connect over. If not, then the thread will be ignored and forgotten, no harm no foul.
Earlier in this thread Nimfie and Stamina were exchanging notes on guns. I don't own a gun and don't know much about them so I'm probably not going to contribute, but if some people have got a common interest and like to talk about it, go right ahead. Maybe it'll attract some new voices into the forums if people see that they can talk about other topics and that it doesn't have to all be about sex all the time.
That being said, I agree with keeping to the subject of the thread. If you want to talk about something else, start a new thread for it. That's how forums are supposed to work. If you want a single thread for all sorts of random topics, then I think you're looking for the chat room.

Again, each to his own. We agree that we all have different opinions on the topic.
I would however like to read what the same people have to say about sex and the swinging lifestyle on other forums (be it a gun owners, political, cooking, religious, childcare, medical, automotive or even education forum) We seek out a specific type of "community" for a specific reason.
Quote by Stamina
I often wonder if "potential meets" never happened because of things I have said here. People can be very judgemental and even ignorant, taking things the wrong way. I believe I am right in always saying what is on my mind but maybe sometimes its a bad idea? You have a point there my friend...

What? you mean like discussing what firearm you carry and what damage a specific bullet will do to you? NAH, I cannot see why that would make anybody not want to meet with you?
Quote by Magix
I'm not race conscious. However, there's a lot of groupies on here. I would like to organise a get together for mix race people. A braai or sumting. Noting major. Just a regular meet of people with the same mind set. Makin friends etc.

@Magix, I am standing up and applauding you. Well done.
I cannot wait to see how many "colour conscious" members have something to say about this.
Quote by Nimfie_Pieman
Anything goes...
That is the name of the folder that bears these threads.
When in doubt I tend go to find the dictionary meaning of the word, as Swingers tend to be colourful with their interpretation thereof.
So yes, banter full threadjacking goes and I often enjoy that too.
Serious topics have a place too however.
At present it seems like you guys feel that all threads needs saving from death, racism, politics, strife or something.
But maybe those things have a place here too? Many of them have bearing on this lifestyle anyway.
When day to day topics are discussed in my vanilla environment, I always have to be careful not to spill the beans on my horny outlook on life. Here I hope I can discuss those same topics and bear my soul and hopefully stand less judged. If not, at least my alias provides me some protection.
The thing is that too much repartee in each thread clouds the value thereof and often PIB's pearls of wisdom for instance can go lost between all the chatter.
So, some topics are suppose to die, others need to move slow to give people the chance to think before the comment. It makes things easier for people that are new to this.
As for the origin of this thread, I do believe it has relevance to this site:
Not that I know too much about the trail but did the argument between Oscar and her not supposedly start about porn?
Would you describe their relationship as one built on love or lust and other more basic emotions or instinct?
What do you do if you end up in a room with the wrong person, that looked so good moments before?
As for hand guns, I have rarely seen them provide a positive outcome.
As with well crafted knives, cars or whatever mankind can create in moments of genius I admire guns for the way they are created.
I do not wish to own one but yet I feel that people that can prove that they are responsible should be allowed to.
As for Oscar, I believe he would have finished the job with the bat, had he not had access to a gun.
The bullets he used sickens me though and I believe they should be banned.

To start with, a point of clarity: It is ME who made the statement about "saving" threads from death, racism etc, and not others, so I think your statement of 'YOU GUY's' is misdirected.
I, just like you, am entitled to my views and opinions. My view is that discussing certain subjects in certain "topic related" forums is not the best thing to do. I often wonder how many people have not contacted me or replied because of a specific point of view I have expressed on the forums?
There was a thread some time back about meeting people, and what would make you not meet. Various things were spoken about such as looks, language, race etc etc but, I would hazard a guess to say that a fairly large number of people would not meet with others based on simple things like comments they make or views they express.
I am here trying to have a different or new kind of sexual experience, not to campaign for votes or congregation members.
Quote by Pussinboots1
Eish SDMR , spoiling my FUN......
I SOOOOOOooooooo :small-print:wanted to Welcome roving _scot to a taking things personal *meeting*...
NOW I can not do so.....not with you warning him NOT to take things personal. sooooo no personal skin on skin action for the poor man...Maybe a good thing Hmmm??banghead:banghead::giveup:
BELATED welcome to roving _scot *come and join the DARK side of Swing Heaven.:rose:

If I am not getting the invitation, then no-one is . . . wink
Quote by Pussinboots1
Why I joined?? To be the pervert that I am.
Why am I STILL here...Now that is a good question....
To remain being a pervert....:happy::evil2:

And you are every-bodies wink favourite pervert PIB
Quote by roving_scot
I'm fairly new to this site, and I'm not usually very chatty, but I'm trying to step out of my comfort zone and contribute to the forums and this seems a decent place to start.
I would say I'm pretty private about my sexual life. I don't flaunt or advertise, but neither am I ashamed to be "found out" and I'm comfortable if the conversation drifts that way. I've got nothing to hide and I don't believe there's anything wrong with what I'm doing or exploring. I'm just feeding a God-given healthy natural appetite and helping someone else to do the same.
I'm a Brit so my family's on the other side of the world, and most of them probably wouldn't give a shit anyway. Some might roll their eyes and question my life choices, but they'll respect them as mine lol. And as for church, I know it seems contradictory on this site to say I'm an absolute Christian (100% believer), but I've studied the subject carefully and the Bible's actually a lot more sexually liberating than most people give it credit for. (That's made for some interesting conversations in a church setting :lolsmile
I guess I'm an average guy on the outside, pretty likeable in general or so I'm told, not exactly normal (who is? wink), but not really "out there" either. I'm generally a sort of quiet, steady, easy-going personality, some might say reserved, but always honest and genuine and keen to step out of my comfort zone when I can and try something new, sexually or otherwise (like skydiving cool). I don't try to put on a mask or a show, I just try to be myself, no matter where I am or what I'm doing.

Being able to be yourself (completely) is an admirable ability, I would however caution you on this forum. Being yourself is the best possible way to go, BUT you have to realise early on that you will be challenged by certain members for your views, opnions, ideas, comments etc etc . . . so my "caution" to you is "don't take it personally"
Quote by roving_scot
Well, I don't think I'll be able to keep up with SDMR, Stamina, PiB, and LeeEC lol, but I'll try to contribute more often when I have an opinion on something.
I've been kind of quiet since joining the site because as luck would have it, I started going out with someone right after I signed up and I didn't think she would be into it (not right away at least wink). As usual though, things didn't work out in the end so I'm completely single again and will try to contribute more.

@Roving_Scot, we can't even keep up with ourselves . . . . . just watch out for Stamina, he's a little ummm, well you have read his posts, so I needn't say more . . . . :lol:
Quote by roving_scot
I'm here to step out of my comfort zone, test my boundaries, maybe learn a few new tricks wink, and hopefully meet some interesting people along the way. You seem like a great bunch of people, and I hope I can make some friends. :cheers:

Always good yo have a "New Voice" in the forums, welcome.
Quote by Sofistikitty
I have no idea how I give head....
I LOVE eating cock, but since I had an STI scare last year, I now only suck K without a dome on, which is my favourite!
I nibble, suck, lick and pull on everything from the head to his balls....
With out other playmates, I am getting better at sucking with a dome on, now I just need to learn how to put a dome on with my mouth!
The guys we have played with have complimented me on my head skills, even with a dome on... so either
1. My enthusiasm makes up for the dome, or
2. They give unsolicited compliments to boost my ego
I always ask the guys for direction, like, tell me if you want it harder, faster, less teeth, more teeth....
I sadly have not eaten enough pussy to comment on my skillset there... just enthusiastic and always willing to be directed.
If any ladies are willing to help me to improve my skills.... PM me ;) :twisted:
;)
C

Erm I volunteer to teach you the dome with your mouth thing. Hehe
I shall be watching this Forum with great anticipation for updates on progress . . . . :twisted:
Quote by LeeEC
That's quite bizarre... I just think I'll say this
Sex, shagging, bonking, missionary, cowgirl
Oral, anal, vaginal, straight, gay, bi

Yes, tell us more then . .. please! :twisted:
Quote by gumboots
I am not actually used to making comments on the Forum, but seeing your post reminded a lot about what we prefer, or prefered. My humble opinion is this: We have had quite a few years experience and the experiences my missus enjoyed most was the spur of the moment "seducing a vanilla" experience. I know it is not quite the same as it mostly involved guys and not girls, but at the end of the day 1) we are all human 2) one will be surprised how conservative guys can be. Anyway, I am not going to say what I think you must do, but let me say it like this: What worked for us is going out for the evening and just have a good evening out. After one or two drinks the missus get a bit more adventurous and flirty and then I leave it to her to hook up with someone she feels comfortable or attracted to. Eventually after chatting and dancing away we would explain the situation to him and most of the time it ends up that we have great fun together.
What I am trying to say is reading your comment about what happens on your night out I personally think you are more than halfway there. Perhaps just leave it in her hands to make the move on the ladies that you mention, especially considering she is prepared to approach a lady herself. I am not saying one should not arrange a lady from the lifestyle, but I tried that before and it is just not the same as the expectation still is there (My Opinion!). Besides, not only me, but my lady herself find seducing a vanilla is so much more fun and much more erotic!
Now I'll go skulk away again

Nice to have a "new" voice on the forum. Welcome!
I think that the way it worked for you is maybe slightly different to Stamina's situation. What I mean is, it is way easier for a woman to "pick up" a guy than it is for a guy to pick up a woman or even for a woman to pick up a woman. I suppose it would also depend on type of venue, age bracket etc etc. And I agree that all ways are definitely possible.
Quote by LeeEC
Ok so apparently our whisper halted EVERY form of discussion smile
Where are the other contributions to the encyclopedia of cunninglinguism :twisted:

Oh, I thought you knew, people don't like to talk about sex on sex sites . . . . wink
Quote by Nimfie_Pieman
One would expect the North Cape to top the list in that regard but no self respecting Wanker is likely to find himself there.

Interesting statement you made there, would you maybe like to clarify what you mean before people from the Northern Cape "misinterpret" your comment?
Quote by Mike_Pta

A little confused as to how Kardashian can be in the list as it could only be "look alikes" with any porn surely?
I wonder if the rest of the article has any information as to how much money South Africans spend online on porn?

I think she did a sex tape somewhere so maybe that's what people are looking for
Also do people still pay for porn?
I wonder myself, but normally you get to watch "basic" stuff and the more "classy" and "out there" stuff they ask for Credit Card . . . so, I am guessing yes.
Quote by redbruce
To the wonderful couple who invited me to their dogging evening at the dam last night, Wow! - you guys are something special!! And then asking me to invite some of my dogging friends to join us too! Magic!!!... It was great to get together like that, and also to have the opportunity to chat and interact!
Thanks particularly to the couple that initiated the evening, but thanks also to the other couple who were there just as "watchers", and ended up joining in the fun and giving us a show of their own! You're a bunch of special people!
To the friends who were able to make it, hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. To those who couldn't make it, or didn't crack an "invite" this time (due to limitations on numbers, sorry...), we're all hoping there'll be a next time soon.
Just posting to let y'all know that "arranged" dogging is still alive, it's safest, and it works out well....

Always nice to have my theories on a subject tested.
Thanks for informing us (especially those of us who were extremely sceptical) about the successful event RedBruce. Now I will turn my focus to listening for an opportunity to experience this in an area near me.
Quote by Stamina
First thought, . .. nah, you asked for serious lol
If I recall correctly, this will be a first for your lady. So, your ideal situation, night club, dancing, seduction etc is not an ideal situation, it is Stamina's fantasy! ! ! !
Your lady is flying her maiden voyage, she might need a little help. Also, for the first experience, I would strongly suggest you consider keeping it very very sober (ie: only one or two drinks)

No no, it is the ideal situation as I know her. She will feel very reserved and frigid, even nervous in a "planned" situation. She is a party animal and "lets loose" when we are out. She gets absorbed in the fun and that is what gets her going. She does not drink alot, maybe a tequila or two and maybe one or two red squares that she drinks slowly, the tipsy stage is when she feels sexy and adventurous. Its at this point that she starts telling me to look at this sexy girl and that sexy girl. This is when she starts the questions: "Do you think we will be able to meet a hot girl tonight and take her home?".. "What about that girl, should I go talk to her and see if she might be bi?"... She has a magnetic personality and 20 minutes after arriving at a pub or club, she has a group of girls that she is partying with. Trust me, my scenario would work best. She will be ready, relaxed and comfortable to take things further after a little "ice-breaking" first...
Look, personally I have found that when some-one is a newby or very inexperienced in the group set-up, that substance usage is more often than not a huge disappointment in the end. Great that your lady only goes to tipsy, so she will be fully aware at all times what is going on around her. Thing is, if you get it right to meet someone in a public place like a club, chances are slim she is going to be "mostly sober". . . . that can have catastrophic effects on your lady, and her views on repeating the activity.
I think a little pre-planning for her first experience is your best bet.
Quote by Stamina
Wait, hold on... I agree to an extent that discuss certain things in places with certain people, likeminded etc... But (yes, there is always a but)... I don't want to sound all mushy and that but I have found friends in you guys. I would love to spend hours socializing with all of you, discussing a vast array of topics and making general conversation. I am a very social person and I never shut up. I love convo and visit and chat for hours. Unfortunately, we all live worlds apart and meeting is a long shot. That means that I will have be a friend online only. The point I am getting at is that I discuss anything that I have on my mind at that moment or have been thinking about. Not always for the purpose of hearing other opinions but sometimes just to "chat" about it. Bottom line, whether you all like it or not, you are my buddies and I am here to stay. Friends converse. Besides, the fact of the matter is that we are not really getting meets out of this site and those that do, it happens few and far between. I have come to enjoy the site and talking to the members and worry less about what it does not deliver.

So, using it as a conversation channel . . . .I get that (well clearly, considering our behaviour) the thing is, most people see it as us not taking the topic seriously, when in reality, the topic is dead or out of place. (I wonder how many other members are reading this shite and shaking their heads, thinking, those two are at it again) Oh, and by the way, it is not the site that does not deliver young man . . . . . .
Maybe I am wrong in my thinking, perhaps a sex related site is the correct place to debate racism and politics? Should we ask the powers that be to start a poll for us to find out what everyone thinks?
So Mike_Pta thread about SA's Porn habits got me thinking. When I joined this site, I joined in the "hope" that I would be able to meet with like minded people, after-all, living outside of the "Big Cities" has a rather extreme limitation on ones options of where to meet with said like minded people. It was within the first month or so, that I very quickly realised that my chances were going to remain slim to none, even with the help of the site. However I stuck around because of all the other benefits. One of which (for me) is looking through the galleries. Now I have to say, if I looked (or measured) like the majority of the people look in the galleries, I think I would have a totally different approach in the real world. (this is a sort of round about kind of compliment to the people in the galleries) A large number of the woman pictured in the galleries, are extremely attractive and clearly have no or very little self confidence issues, they would surely be exposed to attention in the real world which, as we all know could easily lead to "connections". A large number of the men in the Galleries, raise the question as to just how accurate the so called "average penis" size actually is. (and this got worse after it was suggested by others that pictures make it look smaller) So with the knowledge that size does matter, confidence surely abounds. So, despite that relatively useless introduction, my question remains, "Why are you here" ?
Quote by Stamina
I think I should take out life insurance and then we must definitely meet for a beer one day...

Gee, what kind of Beer do they serve there on the East Rand that you need Life Insurance????
Quote by Stamina
I am worried about something. While in my search for a lady to join us for a night of passion, I think about how it may end up being an anticlimax. I am worried it all feels "planned". We all know that sex is best served spontaneously. What if ends up happening simply because it was the plan, not because sparks flew. My ideal scenario: Meet a girl on here and arrange to meet asap at a nice club or vibey pub. She and my girl chat, drink, dance, party the night away. If they feel that they have sufficiently "seduced" each other, then we take things back home. I would for obvious reasons love to be part of the fun but not essential, the ladies pleasure is key here. I do not want to mail someone on here and that very night she is knocking at the door ready to get it on - that would feel planned and I don't think would live up to expectations.
Any thoughts?

First thought, . .. nah, you asked for serious lol
If I recall correctly, this will be a first for your lady. So, your ideal situation, night club, dancing, seduction etc is not an ideal situation, it is Stamina's fantasy! ! ! !
Your lady is flying her maiden voyage, she might need a little help. Also, for the first experience, I would strongly suggest you consider keeping it very very sober (ie: only one or two drinks)
Quote by Stamina
You guys are just so full of shit, can' you ever take anything seriously?
But I guess that's what keeps me coming back to read your crap, my warped sense of humor!
Naughty by nature, kinky by choice!

Give a serious topic (site related) and we will show you just how serious we can take things.
remember, my challenge to you is site related (in other words, sex and swinging) not race, religion, politics, crime, entertainment, etc etc . . . .
@SDMR. Do you really think we should take up that challenge? I am less optimistic about you and me being able to keep it serious for long. I believe we incapable of keeping things serious and its a fact - we are the "ThreadJackers". You do realise that is only a matter of time until AdminSteve looses patience with us and we are then in big KAK!! You are a bad influence man! My mother warned me about okes like you! lol
@Stamina, every now and then, a man has to prove to those around him that he is actually a grown up. RIGHT, enough of that bollocks . . . :lol: every thread that has been ThreadJacked by either you or I (and we are not the only jackers on here) has been Jacked because it was dry, or it was getting aggressive, or someone had been looking for a fight. That and you and I contribute the large majority to the thread, most people who get involved, only get involved to complain about the Jacking. (NOTE: I said most, not all)
To date (as far as I am aware) I have only stepped out of line as far as rules are concerned maybe once or twice (got a spanking too) and I have no doubt that if either you or I step out of line again, the same will happen. So, until then. . . . . serious threads will be dealt with in a serious light, until they go off topic / course.
Oh, and I am NOT the kind of person your mother warned you about, I AM THE PERSON YOUR MOTHER WARNED YOU ABOUT
Quote by Stamina
You guys are just so full of shit, can' you ever take anything seriously?
But I guess that's what keeps me coming back to read your crap, my warped sense of humor!
Naughty by nature, kinky by choice!

There is comedy in everything, you just have to see it. What is weird is that this is me and SDMR when we are sober! Imagine us around a table at a pub with 10 beers in the liver...
UMMMM? ? ? what is this sober thing? and can you drink it? or more importantly, can you F()@k it? lol
Ok, so I am agreeing with stamina about comedy in almost everything. Just a pity that in this country (frame of reference) that the culture installed in us, is that if someone has a different view than you, you have the right to scream out against it and call it offensive.
One could perhaps "save" themselves from feeling offended, if they expressed their particular opinions in the correct place. Now Stamina is going "HUH?" let me explain, if you are on a forum that has politics as it's main subject matter, and you start talking about Swinging, my guess is that you would be told in no uncertain terms that you were confused and should shut up, same if you are on an entertainment forum and you start talking about health care . . . . so why oh why people, do we want to debate shit like firearms, politics, racism etc etc etc on Swinging Heaven . . . . here, we talk about dicks, pussies, boobs, bodies, cum, fluids, squirting, sucking, licking, moaning, groaning, orgasm's, threesomes, group sex, and of course unachievable fantasies . . . . go onto those other forums and have your debates with like minded people and have your sexual debates on this forum with like minded people
ok, so until now I have never heard of Lisa Ann (at least the name does not ring any bells) yet it is the third most searched for in SA. A little confused as to how Kardashian can be in the list as it could only be "look alikes" with any porn surely? Also fascinating to me, is how SA is almost 2 minutes above the world average. I wonder if the rest of the article has any information as to how much money South Africans spend online on porn?