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Quote by Stamina
I have very nice nipples for a man I think...

oh fuck it stamina, I just said you could not be blamed
So since posting this thread, there has been 92 views and 10 replies: Just to bring to your attention: Of the 10 replies, not a single one was responding to the original thread ie: what would you like to see discussed in the forums. Instead the thread was thread-jacked and the only responses, were about what people do not want, and what their feelings were about certain contributors. And seeing as I posted the thread, and Stamina refrained from posting, we cannot be blamed for the thread-jack.
Quote by MIKE_
You asked the question so here's the answer, time for a bit of honesty.
I check the forums every time I log on to the site, irrespective of how many times I've logged on that day. so why don't i comment.
Well, quite simply i don't feel like getting involved in a forum where the so called regulars, are aggressive towards those who don't agree with them, hijack posts that they feel don't belong on the site and feel the need to not only comment on every single thread but on every single comment made, where debate is replaced by instruction.
If a thread is of no interest to you, why not leave it to those who may be interested or let it die its natural death.
There is no debating, there is only the opinion of the regulars and the attempted humiliation and/or personal attacks on the rest.
The problem is not topic related, I believe more people could be encouraged to start and comment on threads, if only the environment was a little less hostile.
Why would people want to get involved in this?
Well there it is, I'm fully aware that I'm going to get lambasted, but I don't really care. After months of hearing people complain about the same thing, someone has to call it as it is.

Right,
So I think somewhere along the line, I have been referred to as a so called "regular".
While I do not completely agree with the way you see things Mike (obviously I would not, as I am on the receiving and dishing out ends) I would like to propose the following to the other so called "regulars"
This is not the first time it has been suggested that this forum 'belongs' to a select few (one of my motivators for this thread)
It has even been suggested before (in round about ways) that we should give others a chance.
So let's do just that, how about we cut back on the amount of "contribution" we make to the threads and "let others" make all the contributions for a while.
Stamina, what say you and I only "speak kak" in a specific thread, say the old BS Forum, and completely refrain from any humorous, or off topic comments in other threads? ie: no thread-jacking
I am as involved in these threads on this site because I thoroughly enjoy it, and actually learn things from time to time, even if it is just about peoples inner workings.
Quote by Mike_Pta
I think we need a more work friendly forum, like a separate site minus the swinging title etc so we can encourage more discussions during the day

Mike, I think they call that FACEBOOK . . . . rotflmao:rotflmao:
Quote by Nimfie_Pieman
As Adonis says, let's play the ball and not the man.
I think I've pretty much worked the chip off my shoulder too, so let's see if we can get something constructive going.
SDRM,
The "saving" statement was yours but I did not single you out because Stamina was normally your partner in crime when taking threads off on a tangent. But guys let's try and get some balance here.
Please don't spoil a thread just because you don't like it.
As for your hypothetical scenario, that kind of thing scares the crap out of me.
If you are linked in any way to any crime or scandal your activities here would raise big questions.
That is why I'm not too keen on being an open swinger. But yes, they will scratch it out anyway.
If you wish to know about my bad experiences with guns you are welcome to PM me.

I hope I never spoiled a thread because I didn't like it, if I ever did, it was not my intention. I would like to think I was more trying to get it back to original topic or liven it up somehow or . . . . well, now you have me thinking as to what was actually behind it sometimes.
BUT, just for clarity, while it may be Stamina and myself who take the topics off on a tangent most of the time lately, it is not only the two of us who do this.
For my part, like I said above, I do it for my own specific reasons, which equates to me not getting involved with a certain line of posts that I clearly see no current, topic related value in. So, my thoughts would be, if other members had the same / similar thoughts to what I was posting, they could maybe just do the same and pretty much overlook what I have added, and carry on with what they do agree with. But, just like if I "attack" what they say, I will react when I am "attacked" for what I say.
I have my views on subject matters that should not be combined. Sex, politics, religion, racism.
Politics because I am part of the statistics of this country that are not allowed to be reported,
Religion because I disagree with the tolerance certain beliefs are given over others (this is a personal thing)
Racism because I have worked in large corporate companies and have watched established people being "destroyed" for the benefit of others.
I cannot understand why the world wants these topics intertwined with everything in life (as in associating them with sex, and making sure the rest of the world knows about it)
These are my views, they are based on things that have happened to me directly, and not on what history says. I do not expect everyone to accept how I see things, but in fairness, people should stop expecting me to see things the way they do.
To all of you who read the forums, but never or almost never, comment in the threads: What would you like to see discussed in the forums? Maybe this way, the more regular contributors could come up with ideas for threads.
Quote by VampEC1
No need for that Mr SDMR, you had your say, I had mine.
Is that not what the forum is for?
Stamina, please remind me not to get on your wrong side !!!

I suppose in some ways yes, although I found it strange that you felt the need to "stand up" for Pieman . . . . . . . something that he would typically do.
Anyway, I think I shall report your concerns on your behalf. You cannot feel offended and nothing gets done about it (even if no-one had said anything at all, to you or even about you)
Quote by VampEC1
Well, I'm new here, have read a lot of the forum posts, so I feel I kinda know the regulars.
I'm actually offended by the insinuating tone of Mr SDMR here.
You say the "essay" Pieman wrote. From what I have read, you also write essays.
You say you not sure if it's based on experience or research, I do hope that you and Pieman know
each other, for you to make such accusations? I don't have a problem with "banter" but this has another "feel" to it.
"Self proclaimed firearm wielding hollywood movie type mentality swinger" as you put it, a bit harsh aren't you?
So you are saying if anyone has a strong opinion, all that posted on this topic, including you, can forget about possible meets?
Mmmmmm seems like sour grapes to me, because the others agreed with Pieman on the "Anything goes" part of this discussion.

The best thing for you to do at this point, is to report me to the Mods. (don't forget to copy the part of my post that offended you)
So despite telling myself that I would not get involved with non site related topic discussions, the last essay by Pieman (which I am not sure if it was based on research or experience) he claims both)) simply "made me" have to say this. Some of you are referring to the murder case of Oscar, saying this and that, but it seems you missed the vital part were the lawyers are trying to use things like text messages and internet surfing as evidence. So, let's paint a hypothetical picture for you: You (insert relevant forum contributor name here) arrange to meet up with a single / couple. The meet happens, play ensues, you go home. One or even both of the other party is shot dead (in a totally unrelated event) Police investigations lead to evidence / witnesses that you had been seen with the person / couple a few hours / days before. Upon investigation it is established that you were mostly strangers to each other. Evidence gets to the point of checking the victims personal communication devices, you get linked to them via SH (or other forum type site) and when the Popo looks at the history on said site, you are found to have explained in detail what firearms do to people, you even spent time and energy explaining what specific ammunition would do if used. Now, rememberer, you had nothing at all whatsoever to do with the shooting . . . . but like that is going to make any fucking difference to your immediate life and foreseeable future. Your need to talk about such things as this on a site where people meet up with strangers, has you stuck between a rock and a hard place. Yes, you will be cleared (well, if the cops do their job) but the damage to you, your loved ones, your career etc etc etc Of course, this is only hypothetical, because no doubt any possible meet's you may have had from this site are gone. Nobody would be willing to meet with a self proclaimed firearm wielding, Hollywood movie type mentality swinger anyway. Well, not unless they thought their gun was bigger than yours . . . . .
Quote by Nimfie_Pieman
in the long run, consider going tubeless. Intial layout might be a bit more expensive, but no more tubes or punctures to worry about.

Really good advice MpPaartjie.
SDMR, while you're tinkering, why not consider a fun mod:
Replace the seat with a dildo. lol
Let me guess, you would want to borrow it all the time then?
Quote by LeeEC
SDMR - time to resurect the bullshit thread smile

The site should add a link to FACEBOOK.
Quote by playcouple
is that your tongue that was poking out my neighbor's ear?

I don't think that was their ear . . . :twisted:
Quote by Stamina
I am wanting to change the tube on my bicycle tyre, it is the front wheel and it has quick release callipers.
Can someone (or in the case of this site, everyone) please give me advice . . . .

Here it is in 20 easy steps...
Step 1. Remove front wheel.
Step 2. Remove tyre from rim.
Step 3. Drink a beer.
Step 4. Remove tube from tyre.
Step 5. Drink a beer.
Step 6. Insert new tube in tyre.
Step 7. Drink a beer.
Step 8. Repair hole in new tube caused by drinking 3 beers.
Step 9. Drink a beer.
Step 10. Take bicycle to cycle shop for repair.
Step 11. Return home and drink a beer.
Step 12. Collect bike from cycle shop.
Step 13. Buy a six pack of beer with the change from paying for the repair.
Step 14. Drink a beer.
Step 15. Ride repaired bicycle in your underpants around town.
Step 16. Phone a friend for bail money.
Step 17. Drink a beer.
Step 18. Sell bicycle for beer money.
Step 19. Stock pile cases of beer.
Step 20. Drink a beer!!
You left out a very important step: LOG ONTO A SEX SWINGER SITE AND DISCUSS THE FUCKEN WEATHER
Quote by redbruce
I am wanting to change the tube on my bicycle tyre, it is the front wheel and it has quick release callipers.
Can someone (or in the case of this site, everyone) please give me advice . . . .

So, SDMR, just how far was your tongue in your cheek when you posted this? wink
:wink: must say, I have been left speechless
Quote by VampEC1
Hello everyone. ....
This looks like the place to be :-D
Why am I here? Well....My partner wants to swing and is trying to convince me.
To be quite honest I'm struggling to wrap my head around this.
Is swinging not like cheating? Maybe you can enlighten me?
VampEC1

it is generally only considered cheating if you do anything without your partners knowledge.
Quote by Adonis
SDMR you asked for it. now you can get busy

Yes, but that's nothing, you should see all the useful info I got on sex from the Bicycle Weekly website. banghead
Needless to say, I feel a slow and gradual departure in the near future . . . .
I am wanting to change the tube on my bicycle tyre, it is the front wheel and it has quick release callipers. Can someone (or in the case of this site, everyone) please give me advice . . . .
Quote by roving_scot

I often wonder if "potential meets" never happened because of things I have said here. People can be very judgemental and even ignorant, taking things the wrong way. I believe I am right in always saying what is on my mind but maybe sometimes its a bad idea? You have a point there my friend...

What? you mean like discussing what firearm you carry and what damage a specific bullet will do to you? NAH, I cannot see why that would make anybody not want to meet with you?
I'm sure there are some people that might find the guns and sex thing highly erotic lol
Perhaps, but then I am pretty sure they would ALSO talk about sex in the forum . . . . . .
Quote by roving_scot
I don't think it's necessarily wrong to bring up other topics here that are not sex related. Sure, this is a sex and swinging site, but it seems like there are many people here who are not just here for the sex, but also for the friendship and even camaraderie you get with like-minded people, and I think that an important part of friendship is the ability to honestly exchange views and opinions on any sort of topic.
Due to the nature of the site, most forum topics will probably be sex related, and that is probably as it should be, but if someone wants to start a conversation on something serious like the elections or something random like their pet cats, I would say go right ahead. It doesn't mean that everyone else needs to join in, but if someone else also loves talking about their pet cats or the merits of Zille vs Zuma, then that's great, they've got something in common to connect over. If not, then the thread will be ignored and forgotten, no harm no foul.
Earlier in this thread Nimfie and Stamina were exchanging notes on guns. I don't own a gun and don't know much about them so I'm probably not going to contribute, but if some people have got a common interest and like to talk about it, go right ahead. Maybe it'll attract some new voices into the forums if people see that they can talk about other topics and that it doesn't have to all be about sex all the time.
That being said, I agree with keeping to the subject of the thread. If you want to talk about something else, start a new thread for it. That's how forums are supposed to work. If you want a single thread for all sorts of random topics, then I think you're looking for the chat room.

Again, each to his own. We agree that we all have different opinions on the topic.
I would however like to read what the same people have to say about sex and the swinging lifestyle on other forums (be it a gun owners, political, cooking, religious, childcare, medical, automotive or even education forum) We seek out a specific type of "community" for a specific reason.
Quote by Stamina
I often wonder if "potential meets" never happened because of things I have said here. People can be very judgemental and even ignorant, taking things the wrong way. I believe I am right in always saying what is on my mind but maybe sometimes its a bad idea? You have a point there my friend...

What? you mean like discussing what firearm you carry and what damage a specific bullet will do to you? NAH, I cannot see why that would make anybody not want to meet with you?
Quote by Magix
I'm not race conscious. However, there's a lot of groupies on here. I would like to organise a get together for mix race people. A braai or sumting. Noting major. Just a regular meet of people with the same mind set. Makin friends etc.

@Magix, I am standing up and applauding you. Well done.
I cannot wait to see how many "colour conscious" members have something to say about this.
Quote by Nimfie_Pieman
Anything goes...
That is the name of the folder that bears these threads.
When in doubt I tend go to find the dictionary meaning of the word, as Swingers tend to be colourful with their interpretation thereof.
So yes, banter full threadjacking goes and I often enjoy that too.
Serious topics have a place too however.
At present it seems like you guys feel that all threads needs saving from death, racism, politics, strife or something.
But maybe those things have a place here too? Many of them have bearing on this lifestyle anyway.
When day to day topics are discussed in my vanilla environment, I always have to be careful not to spill the beans on my horny outlook on life. Here I hope I can discuss those same topics and bear my soul and hopefully stand less judged. If not, at least my alias provides me some protection.
The thing is that too much repartee in each thread clouds the value thereof and often PIB's pearls of wisdom for instance can go lost between all the chatter.
So, some topics are suppose to die, others need to move slow to give people the chance to think before the comment. It makes things easier for people that are new to this.
As for the origin of this thread, I do believe it has relevance to this site:
Not that I know too much about the trail but did the argument between Oscar and her not supposedly start about porn?
Would you describe their relationship as one built on love or lust and other more basic emotions or instinct?
What do you do if you end up in a room with the wrong person, that looked so good moments before?
As for hand guns, I have rarely seen them provide a positive outcome.
As with well crafted knives, cars or whatever mankind can create in moments of genius I admire guns for the way they are created.
I do not wish to own one but yet I feel that people that can prove that they are responsible should be allowed to.
As for Oscar, I believe he would have finished the job with the bat, had he not had access to a gun.
The bullets he used sickens me though and I believe they should be banned.

To start with, a point of clarity: It is ME who made the statement about "saving" threads from death, racism etc, and not others, so I think your statement of 'YOU GUY's' is misdirected.
I, just like you, am entitled to my views and opinions. My view is that discussing certain subjects in certain "topic related" forums is not the best thing to do. I often wonder how many people have not contacted me or replied because of a specific point of view I have expressed on the forums?
There was a thread some time back about meeting people, and what would make you not meet. Various things were spoken about such as looks, language, race etc etc but, I would hazard a guess to say that a fairly large number of people would not meet with others based on simple things like comments they make or views they express.
I am here trying to have a different or new kind of sexual experience, not to campaign for votes or congregation members.
Quote by Pussinboots1
Eish SDMR , spoiling my FUN......
I SOOOOOOooooooo :small-print:wanted to Welcome roving _scot to a taking things personal *meeting*...
NOW I can not do so.....not with you warning him NOT to take things personal. sooooo no personal skin on skin action for the poor man...Maybe a good thing Hmmm??banghead:banghead::giveup:
BELATED welcome to roving _scot *come and join the DARK side of Swing Heaven.:rose:

If I am not getting the invitation, then no-one is . . . wink
Quote by Pussinboots1
Why I joined?? To be the pervert that I am.
Why am I STILL here...Now that is a good question....
To remain being a pervert....:happy::evil2:

And you are every-bodies wink favourite pervert PIB
Quote by roving_scot
I'm fairly new to this site, and I'm not usually very chatty, but I'm trying to step out of my comfort zone and contribute to the forums and this seems a decent place to start.
I would say I'm pretty private about my sexual life. I don't flaunt or advertise, but neither am I ashamed to be "found out" and I'm comfortable if the conversation drifts that way. I've got nothing to hide and I don't believe there's anything wrong with what I'm doing or exploring. I'm just feeding a God-given healthy natural appetite and helping someone else to do the same.
I'm a Brit so my family's on the other side of the world, and most of them probably wouldn't give a shit anyway. Some might roll their eyes and question my life choices, but they'll respect them as mine lol. And as for church, I know it seems contradictory on this site to say I'm an absolute Christian (100% believer), but I've studied the subject carefully and the Bible's actually a lot more sexually liberating than most people give it credit for. (That's made for some interesting conversations in a church setting :lolsmile
I guess I'm an average guy on the outside, pretty likeable in general or so I'm told, not exactly normal (who is? wink), but not really "out there" either. I'm generally a sort of quiet, steady, easy-going personality, some might say reserved, but always honest and genuine and keen to step out of my comfort zone when I can and try something new, sexually or otherwise (like skydiving cool). I don't try to put on a mask or a show, I just try to be myself, no matter where I am or what I'm doing.

Being able to be yourself (completely) is an admirable ability, I would however caution you on this forum. Being yourself is the best possible way to go, BUT you have to realise early on that you will be challenged by certain members for your views, opnions, ideas, comments etc etc . . . so my "caution" to you is "don't take it personally"
Quote by roving_scot
Well, I don't think I'll be able to keep up with SDMR, Stamina, PiB, and LeeEC lol, but I'll try to contribute more often when I have an opinion on something.
I've been kind of quiet since joining the site because as luck would have it, I started going out with someone right after I signed up and I didn't think she would be into it (not right away at least wink). As usual though, things didn't work out in the end so I'm completely single again and will try to contribute more.

@Roving_Scot, we can't even keep up with ourselves . . . . . just watch out for Stamina, he's a little ummm, well you have read his posts, so I needn't say more . . . . :lol:
Quote by roving_scot
I'm here to step out of my comfort zone, test my boundaries, maybe learn a few new tricks wink, and hopefully meet some interesting people along the way. You seem like a great bunch of people, and I hope I can make some friends. :cheers:

Always good yo have a "New Voice" in the forums, welcome.
Quote by Sofistikitty
I have no idea how I give head....
I LOVE eating cock, but since I had an STI scare last year, I now only suck K without a dome on, which is my favourite!
I nibble, suck, lick and pull on everything from the head to his balls....
With out other playmates, I am getting better at sucking with a dome on, now I just need to learn how to put a dome on with my mouth!
The guys we have played with have complimented me on my head skills, even with a dome on... so either
1. My enthusiasm makes up for the dome, or
2. They give unsolicited compliments to boost my ego
I always ask the guys for direction, like, tell me if you want it harder, faster, less teeth, more teeth....
I sadly have not eaten enough pussy to comment on my skillset there... just enthusiastic and always willing to be directed.
If any ladies are willing to help me to improve my skills.... PM me ;) :twisted:
;)
C

Erm I volunteer to teach you the dome with your mouth thing. Hehe
I shall be watching this Forum with great anticipation for updates on progress . . . . :twisted:
Quote by LeeEC
That's quite bizarre... I just think I'll say this
Sex, shagging, bonking, missionary, cowgirl
Oral, anal, vaginal, straight, gay, bi

Yes, tell us more then . .. please! :twisted:
Quote by gumboots
I am not actually used to making comments on the Forum, but seeing your post reminded a lot about what we prefer, or prefered. My humble opinion is this: We have had quite a few years experience and the experiences my missus enjoyed most was the spur of the moment "seducing a vanilla" experience. I know it is not quite the same as it mostly involved guys and not girls, but at the end of the day 1) we are all human 2) one will be surprised how conservative guys can be. Anyway, I am not going to say what I think you must do, but let me say it like this: What worked for us is going out for the evening and just have a good evening out. After one or two drinks the missus get a bit more adventurous and flirty and then I leave it to her to hook up with someone she feels comfortable or attracted to. Eventually after chatting and dancing away we would explain the situation to him and most of the time it ends up that we have great fun together.
What I am trying to say is reading your comment about what happens on your night out I personally think you are more than halfway there. Perhaps just leave it in her hands to make the move on the ladies that you mention, especially considering she is prepared to approach a lady herself. I am not saying one should not arrange a lady from the lifestyle, but I tried that before and it is just not the same as the expectation still is there (My Opinion!). Besides, not only me, but my lady herself find seducing a vanilla is so much more fun and much more erotic!
Now I'll go skulk away again

Nice to have a "new" voice on the forum. Welcome!
I think that the way it worked for you is maybe slightly different to Stamina's situation. What I mean is, it is way easier for a woman to "pick up" a guy than it is for a guy to pick up a woman or even for a woman to pick up a woman. I suppose it would also depend on type of venue, age bracket etc etc. And I agree that all ways are definitely possible.