On the topic of "costs".

Here's our take.

As a couple - we don't play on a first date. So that usually means meeting a couple for a drink to test synergies "face to face". So... thats 3 hours of our time. Minimum. Plus drinks. On average 3 out of 5 of these meets don't end up in play owing to "lack of synergies". So there's a heavy time investment to meet peeps that way.

Or. You can go to 1 party at a club. Get to meet 25 couples in the space of 3 hours easily. It's a no brainer to spot the miss-matches. If there's a couple we both like the "look and feel" of - we'll hit them up with a convo. Usually 10 minutes of chatting and we know if we want to take things into a bedroom. We'll get their deets and message them later (if play that night isn't possible).

So we see the clubs as a Speed Dating opportunity. Getting to face to face with 10 couples is going to take months and cost 20 times more than a single club visit.

Just our 5c

How you approach the topic depends largely on your intended outcome. If youre pursuing MFM fun - your initial approach would be difficult from if you wanting MFF or MFFM fun. But the conversation ALWAYS needs to be about Mrs. Her feelings. Her emotions. Her insecurities.

One way would be to watch some porn together. Best if its the genre that you want to explore. While watching - be vocal about your arousal. Afterward ask her if you can ask her an awkward question - but that she needs to have an open mind. If she agrees... present a scenario to her. Eg "if we were at a club and a single guy was eyeing you out... how would you feel inviting him back to our place for fun". Gauge her response and either continue the discussion or back off (depending on how she replies).

But what's critical is that you absolutely explain that this is about "fantasy" and not boredom or lack of love.

If you respond here with what your desired outcome is (playing with couples or single) we can give you some more sage advise thats helped us.

Nexxxus in Midrand. Close to New Road. Gorgeous pay by the hour rooms.

Been told this is a feature?

Definitely worth a visit. Message Bella (one of the owners) for more info. Her profile name here is StickyToffee

Nexxxus in Midrand. You can bring in 12 people if you like. No sneaking required.

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Hi does anyone know of a good meeting place for 2 guys too meet for some fun in Midrand or surounds where no questions are asked.?

Nexxxus. They have a profile in the clubs/venues section.

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You should get any newspaper from the early 80s when jobs were advertised for whites only ( bbe ) but for whites.

"Only a fool trips on what’s behind him" - Monica Murphy.

We have single guys blocked from contacting us for a reason. That reason: unFUCKINGreliability.

Our profile says "Single guys we will contact you when required". About 2 months ago Mrs sent messages to 16 single guy profiles for some 1 on 1 fun. Gave some of them a email adress to reply to and some (those with vouches from people we know and have met) a number. Of the 16 messages (all profiles active within that week) only 4 replied. And of those 4 - only 2 complied with her request for clear pics. Of those 2 - one ghosted us and the other made plans and then cancelled last minute.

0 for 16. The odds of her ever reaching out to another single gent for some 1 on 1 fun again... prolly less than 1%

Anybody else frustrated with the new format messaging platform? We use it on Android exclusively and are struggling to get to grips with it. Many messages show a title heading in the overview pane. But when we open the message - blank.

And the amount of messages suddenly reduced from 1 or 2 a day - to 1 a week (if we're lucky).

Just us?

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I know this thread was started about 4 months ago but I have to chant in here, I am all for decency and manners BUT I have more than a THOUSAND unread mails in my inbox, everybody expects a reply and wants to chat on all platforms. I have a busniness, children and a life outside of SH, if I had to answer each and every mail which usually ends up in another reply even if I politely said no thanks, I would end up replying to mails the entire damn day and might as well charge per reply since it will then be my dayjob!! Its simply not possible and after years on this site I really do not give a shit who thinks what about how decent I am for not answering piles and piles of mail! So before you get on the bandwagon about decency, think about the ratio of single men on here and single women and how swamped we are!

This is the exact reason Ive quit this site so many times before because I have been called all the names in the book for not answering mails...guess what, its on MY terms now! Rant over.

Damn. A thousand unread?

*deletes the mail he was busy writing to Wednesday.
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Have you reported this profile to the mods? If you have a case reference number we are sure they will take action and ban him.

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Hi not sure if anyone noticed, but some profiles have gift options... How does it work?

EUREKA.

so I also came across a profile and decided as a mod it would be safe to click on gift.

So it seems it's on non paying members profiles. . you can gift them memberships... 😁

Came across which profile hmmm? Was cleaning the screen a messy job?
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"Why worry? We are all on here for the same thing".

Bull dust. Mrs works in an industry, where WITHOUT men knowing that she is in the lifestyle - she is bombarded on a weekly basis by married vanilla men flirting and propositioning.

If they were to find out what she enjoys in her sexy time, she would NEVER be able to get her vocation concluded without some sort of "this for that" propositions by men.
And people talk. Its irrelevant that they might be swingers themselves, but you can bet your bottom dollar that the conversation they have with arbitrary people go something along the lines of "...I heard from my friend that's a Swinger that Suzie is a swinger! Can you believe that shit? Never knew she was so wild". People like to talk and make themselves feel better about having a perceived upper hand over somebody. Its a human condition. We just prefer not to give anybody any ammo.

We have also been the target of harassment by nefarious individual who used our very intimate and private images in an attempt to gain some level of control over us. After getting that matter sorted legally, we opt to not have anything that ties us to the profile on public display.

There is also a couple on SH that use our face pics to pass off as their own. Imagine our surprise when good friends sent us a screenshot of a convo they were having with this couple, who had sent them our image as they proudly remarked "Hierdie is Ons". I hope they read this. Because they know very well who we are and we suspect they know that we know. Karma is a bitch you twats. Can't understand their logic in doing so. What are they hoping will happen when they lure an unsuspecting person/s to a meeting? Can't buy brains or class we guess.

Our regrets to Mrs AandBB. Unfortunately the lifestyle is chock and block full of chancers and bullschitters. Sadly for the decent ones - the biggest culprits are the infamous single men. We have been let down so many times by singles guys that we have prevented their contacting us on the site. And the excuses...  omg. My Granny died. I was hijacked. My car was stolen. My cell phone was stolen (but he miraculously remembered our cell number). Pet run over. Oh man the excuses. Just to cover up what is essentially character flaws. 

Our best advise - move on. Tell every person you know who the doos is. So they dont waste their time. We do that. Not a public shaming. But a courtesy heads up to other couples and single ladies as to which jerks to block in advance. 

Use vouches as a guide. If a person has a few vouches - chances are they are legit and wont drop you. Not a guarentee though, as we found out to our dismay when a single guy with vouches failed to arrive at an event which we took leave for. Mrs did make up and nails etc. Loads of effort for this Super"man" who ended up ghosting us for days and then some piss poor excuse about a work emergency. 

It's such a shame for the genuinely awesome single guys who end up shunned because of the actions of their AHole fellow single males.

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Nexcuss Club in Midrand is a clean very safe swinging orientated venue.

Where does one find this Club...nothing on Google

They have a profile in the Clubs section.

We unfortunately are not getting any replies

Sorry to hear that. Very unusual...  DM us and we will share the owners Whats App details.

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We were fortunate to have found one another IN the lifestyle. One of us more so involved than the other. And it progressed as Unicorn and ROgue becoming a swinging couple since neither wanted to abandon the freedom and choice the lifestyle affords. 

Don't give up looking for a vanilla Mrs Right. 99% of couples were mortified at the idea of swinging when their significant other first raised it. But honestly goes a long way. In your situation - assume you're dating a lady. Obviously not on the first date - but once the relationship has progressed, start to expand on your lifestyle experiences - BUT relate them to her from the perspective of the wives you have met. Expanding on the pleasure and choice they get out of being a swinger. You will soon (hopefully) have her asking more probing questions. And as soon as she does - thats the first step on an amazing adventure. 

Thanks for the insightful answer. Yes I always wonder how would I, if I ever had to be in a situation, bring up the idea to my girlfriend, that I would like to see other guys play with you. That has always made me hesitant in even looking to get into a relationship.

- Williamson

We were fortunate to have found one another IN the lifestyle. One of us more so involved than the other. And it progressed as Unicorn and ROgue becoming a swinging couple since neither wanted to abandon the freedom and choice the lifestyle affords. 

Don't give up looking for a vanilla Mrs Right. 99% of couples were mortified at the idea of swinging when their significant other first raised it. But honestly goes a long way. In your situation - assume you're dating a lady. Obviously not on the first date - but once the relationship has progressed, start to expand on your lifestyle experiences - BUT relate them to her from the perspective of the wives you have met. Expanding on the pleasure and choice they get out of being a swinger. You will soon (hopefully) have her asking more probing questions. And as soon as she does - thats the first step on an amazing adventure. 

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Nexcuss Club in Midrand is a clean very safe swinging orientated venue.

Where does one find this Club...nothing on Google

Try The Nicol in Bedfordview. They rent out fully furnished apartments for long or short term duration. Quite a few couples have staged playdates there (and one or two gangbangs) without being thrown out. 

The Mercure (also Bedfordview) is also a good option. Played with couples there before without issues. 

Safe Travels.

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DP is fun. If had the good luck to try both double vaginal; and vagina and anus. The tricky bit is finding a guy willing to do it. The ladies love it.

 Yes. That the difficult part 🤣🤣😫

Not sure if you're being serious with that question 🤔 

Would think the answer is painfully obvious. Yes we prefer a willing partner over one who's clearly against swinging and only doing it to hang on to their tenuous relationship. 

You wanna put your cock deep inside my wife? Let your bulbous bell end batter her womb? Fine. Just don't go to first base with her please. Thats a no-no. You can fuck her ass as hard and for as long as you want...  but for the love of sweet baby jebsus, don't you dare peck her on her pouting lips. That's a no-no.

Sure buddy. You can use my car. Wheelspin it. Handbrake turn it. Rev it till the valves bounce. Redline that sucker till the discs glow red...  but whatever you do...  do NOT use the cupholders. Those are for MY special moments.

We have personally never understood the logic. Some couples say that kissing is reserved for their intimacy. As in... kissing is "special" and only meant for "tender loving moments" while swinging is just fucking. 

Meh. Each to their own. 

Why is this? Single guys we can understand. Piss off enough people with your incessant cock pics and you give up and start a new clone profile to try your luck again.

Single ladies fall in love and abandon their profiles and become single again and start afresh. Have seen this happen a few times and we're stoked they come back. More stoked when theuly reach out to advise us of their new profile info.

But what's with the couples with 2 or 3 or 4 incarnations of the same pics? New profile name. Same people. Forgotten passwords perhaps? What gives...?

Some pics on here cannot be unseen. There isn't enough bleach in the world to clear our eyes of the cock pics taken while guys are standing in front of a porcelain bowl. No guys. Just NO!

:inlove: yes please

Our hit ratio on here is 1 in 20. And thats just messages here that move across to a more convenient platform (w h a t s a p p   or  Te le gr am). Of those - we end up pursuing 1 in 5 for a face to face meet. And of those probably 1 in 5 results in playtime (pre-covid). You gotta kiss a lotta frogs to find the princes/princesses. 

But when it happens - suddenly all the work that went into finding them feels worthwhile.

Have been to a few pvt parties where 4 or more (up to 10) couples were there. The atmospheres were electric - but not really our thing. Possibly because people paired up and disappeard to have privacy. Or the open air play was "toned down" because the participants didn't want to make too much noise and be a distraction. 

We should try again with other players to make 100% sure its not for us before we sound to resigned.

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A man in a dress with boobs 😐

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Does that make me bi? Probably. Do I give a fuck? Definitely not.

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