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What is swinging? Or more importantly, what is not swinging? There is no clear answer to that. On this site, there are even single straight guys that are just looking for single straight girls and vice versa. We are all here to express our naughty side in one way or another . In the early days we found more excitement in exchanging naughty messages and pics with "Fakers" than many old hands get from doing unspeakable things. Above all, we still enjoy the freshness of people having new experiences, so we like engaging with new and undecided couples. ( And some well spoken singles) For us there is more fun to be had with nice Fakers, that have some imagination, than with experienced people that are pushy. If however you are in the mood for something more physical, Cyber Sex won't do. We therefore have to find ways to distinguish between people that are in this to get it on and those that just have big ideas. As I mentioned in another thread, I believe the answer is not in being Verified once but indeed to be verified by several other profiles. Again, that does not mean that you have played with them but that your profile represents you in a reasonable manner.
Pasting in... *As I mentioned in another thread, I believe the answer is not in being Verified once but indeed to be verified by several other profiles. Again, that does not mean that you have played with them but that your profile represents you in a reasonable manner.* Just WHAT I was trying to say all the time, maybe just not as eloquently.
Nimfie. Ek gaan afrikaans skryf as jy nie verstaan sal ek probeer vertaal. Ek dink jou idee dat meer mense jou moet verifieer, wat sal bewys dat jy werklik is en dit wat jy in jou profile staan jou werklik weerspieel. My voorstel is dat jy dit met Admin opneem in 'n "Support ticket" want dit word nie werklik adverteer dat dit beter is as jy deur meer as een mens veririfeer word. Kry die indruk as jy wel deur iemand geverifieer is is dit goed genoeg. My eie ondervinding, en is reeds geruime tyd op die site, dat dit geen doel maak om 'n persoon wat reeds geverifieer is nog my stempel ook daarop te plaas. Ek dink dieselfde argument bestaan vir die "Friends" waar party mense baie het, maar dit net gedoen om die versoek agter die rug te kry. Soos ek se ek steun jou voorstel 100%
Hi Adonis Thanks for the endorsement but it is actually Pieman here, with Nimfie's full support. Hope I don't sound too much like a girl. lol
Sorry that i think was Nimfie
Hi there, I just have one problem with what you are saying. We have been on this site for sometime now and have only meet 3 cpls as the other people always pull out at last minute for some or other reason. Then in our case we will never reach the quota you are suggesting. :sad: I would say a member must be on the site for sometime and them, their self must be verified, before they can verify a new member. I think this will cut down the people that join the site and get member verified with in 7days in the meantime they are just testing the water to see if the life style is for them or not. Joyrider Just an idea
Hi Joyriders We lived in a small community similar to where you are for about 5 years and it was challenging to find friends to share any rare interests we had. Back then we didn't even consider something as extra rare as Swinging. Yet cheating was very popular where we lived and then people thought the hole town would not find out! Haha Unfortunately therefore you are geographically challenged. Also, like ours, your profile shows that you aren't into quickies. This makes it very problematic to meet passersby and be verified often. Even in PE, we could not get someone to verify us, as none of the people we met where verified. We had to be Cam verified by a couple from Pretoria. We are trying to change this culture. As for verifying new members, we have done so, as we were comfortable that their profile described them well and that they are open and honest. These new members need a helping hand more than anyone. On the other hand there are members that have been here for much longer than us and that we have met, that we'll not verify.
I have to admit it is easier to be verified after a Meet and Greet or we have here in CPT. Not to easy if there is just the one on one meetings. I am now of to shower for the *CPT Picnic* where I am going to meet some new people and say hi to other profiles I already know.
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Hi there,
I just have one problem with what you are saying. We have been on this site for sometime now and have only meet 3 cpls as the other people always pull out at last minute for some or other reason. Then in our case we will never reach the quota you are suggesting. :sad:
I would say a member must be on the site for sometime and them, their self must be verified, before they can verify a new member. I think this will cut down the people that join the site and get member verified with in 7days in the meantime they are just testing the water to see if the life style is for them or not.
Joyrider
Just an idea

Dont like the idea of the quota..... sounds to much like guavamint (please don't be offended it is a joke, if you are offended then please don't tell me I don't care)
To get verified by a mod is easy.
The other thing is that in this day and age that every laptop ships with built in webcam, the site has the facilities and the use is not unusual any linger, stop being lazy and do your own verification of people that tickle your fancy and that you think are worthwhile. You guys are here of own free will, so stop abdicating your responsibility to the mods or the site. YOU are responsible for your own actions and YOU are responsible to choose who YOU wish to associate with.
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What is swinging? Or more importantly, what is not swinging?
There is no clear answer to that.
On this site, there are even single straight guys that are just looking for single straight girls and vice versa.
We are all here to express our naughty side in one way or another .
In the early days we found more excitement in exchanging naughty messages and pics with "Fakers" than many old hands get from doing unspeakable things.
Above all, we still enjoy the freshness of people having new experiences, so we like engaging with new and undecided couples. ( And some well spoken singles)
For us there is more fun to be had with nice Fakers, that have some imagination, than with experienced people that are pushy.
If however you are in the mood for something more physical, Cyber Sex won't do.
We therefore have to find ways to distinguish between people that are in this to get it on and those that just have big ideas.
As I mentioned in another thread, I believe the answer is not in being Verified once but indeed to be verified by several other profiles. Again, that does not mean that you have played with them but that your profile represents you in a reasonable manner.

My suggestion would be that perhaps the "fakers" should start their own WebSite for this purpose, that way the "Non-Fakers" on say this site, would know not to join their site, because they would know it is offering something different to what they are actually looking for.
Hi SDMR Instead of having one extra site for the "Fakers" why not have 47,479 sites to represent each person on this site, as none of us want exactly the same thing, not even my wife and I. Or We can have one site with different profiles. The thing is, many of the Faker couples started off with real intentions but nervous, until they encountered someone as uncompromising or unyielding as you appear to be. They then start employing many defensive tactics. Often one of the partners will pull out and the other will keep on trying, hoping to get their partner back in once they found a match. We know several couples like that and in some cases, in the past, we have added to their pain. It is much easier to be brave on this site as a single male with few reservations or limits. If you however want to do this in a way that is exciting but safe for your wife at the same time, it is a different story all together. Thing is, many of the profiles are not completely honest or up to date. Not even the most ready to meet and play ones. We all just trying to find something that works for us, so let's give each other some grace.
Hi Nimfie_Pieman, The point I was simply trying to make was the following: This particular site offers a specific type of thing, so if it is not what one is looking for, then in fairness to oneself, joining this particular site is not the best choice one could make. It's like choosing Bank A over Bank B because maybe one day they will have the services that Bank B have. If one finds themselves at some or other kind of crossroad about the "lifestyle" and sites, and one determines that, say for example, this is the best choice of site for them, then I would say, go for it, BUT, in your profile write-up include that fact. That way 98% of the members on the site would not call one a "fake" and in fact would treat one way better, resulting in way better results. Also, can I encourage you to have a few conversation's with me before you go ahead and make statements like I have few reservations or limits or even to suggest that I am inflexible.
In my opinion, as mentioned in the beginning, this site is NOT very specific, contrary to what you profess. It is sexually universal. Way more so than most people and specifically me would considers as being 'Swinging' In one's profile setup, it has tick boxes that allows for 'Erotic Writing' all the way through to 'Gang Bangs' To my wife and I swinging brings to mind, couples playing with couples but yet singles like you also have a place in this sun and rightly so. This site is Bank A to Z. If you're looking for online sexy fun, there is on deed to move on. Unless you have stepped on the wrong toes or some nasty people have shun you. The 'Fakers' are mostly happy to be here and they get their fix, just like my wife and I get from participating honestly. My assessment of your reservations and limits are based directly on what you have written in your profile. From most of your forum postings, that I have read, you appear open minded and fair. That is why I find your approach to timid members a bit harsh. Make no mistake, after spending time with some of these members, we have recommended that their relationship, as a couple, would be best served, if they leave this site and they have done so. We are however still open to chatting with them and one day they may be ready to participate fully.
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In my opinion, as mentioned in the beginning, this site is NOT very specific, contrary to what you profess. It is sexually universal. Way more so than most people and specifically me would considers as being 'Swinging'
In one's profile setup, it has tick boxes that allows for 'Erotic Writing' all the way through to 'Gang Bangs'
To my wife and I swinging brings to mind, couples playing with couples but yet singles like you also have a place in this sun and rightly so.
This site is Bank A to Z. If you're looking for online sexy fun, there is on deed to move on. Unless you have stepped on the wrong toes or some nasty people have shun you.
The 'Fakers' are mostly happy to be here and they get their fix, just like my wife and I get from participating honestly.
My assessment of your reservations and limits are based directly on what you have written in your profile.
From most of your forum postings, that I have read, you appear open minded and fair. That is why I find your approach to timid members a bit harsh.
Make no mistake, after spending time with some of these members, we have recommended that their relationship, as a couple, would be best served, if they leave this site and they have done so. We are however still open to chatting with them and one day they may be ready to participate fully.

Yes, single like me have a place in this sun, but I HAVE to abide by the others requirements. If a profile says no single males, then I should not contact them, because they have made it clear what their requirements are.
As for the rest of your posting, I look forward to answering it together with the PM conversation we have started.
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Hi SDMR
Instead of having one extra site for the "Fakers" why not have 47,479 sites to represent each person on this site, as none of us want exactly the same thing, not even my wife and I.
Or
We can have one site with different profiles.
The thing is, many of the Faker couples started off with real intentions but nervous, until they encountered someone as uncompromising or unyielding as you appear to be. They then start employing many defensive tactics. Often one of the partners will pull out and the other will keep on trying, hoping to get their partner back in once they found a match.
We know several couples like that and in some cases, in the past, we have added to their pain.
It is much easier to be brave on this site as a single male with few reservations or limits.
If you however want to do this in a way that is exciting but safe for your wife at the same time, it is a different story all together.
Thing is, many of the profiles are not completely honest or up to date. Not even the most ready to meet and play ones.
We all just trying to find something that works for us, so let's give each other some grace.

Opinion time, to is swinginh invludes 3 sums with singles, oe for that matter moresums with several swingers also falls under swinging.