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So I'm fairly new to the site. Having joined not necessarily to indulge ourselves personally. But well for the Swingers weekends we host. Since joining the site, I have had more people mention race to me this month, Then I have had in almost 20 years. I do understand we are set in our ways. We trust ourselves, our own. And there seems to be a real camaraderie among the people on here. I did say I found it a bit clique-like. But I think what I really felt, was the underlying tone of Whites for Whites and everyone else for everyone else. I'm sure there are great people, that have no concerns with Race. Cleanliness, Drugs, habits, diseases are concerns everyone has. And those people are a treasure. I've just had a month of having almost accepting and becoming part of, and continuing the Race debacle. 49 000 users. I suppose this is more a rant, than wanting to know the truth. That might just be too painful to accept. It's ok to be accommodating of another persons concerns. Not at the expense of ignoring your intuition. The couples who have race concerns, might really be the minority.
Genuine there was a long discussion on this tread in the forum, must we go down that road again. As long as you respect people, you will have no problem, but to pressure your views on people that's when the problem starts.
I can imagine this one topic going on endlessly. It was merely a rant. Perhaps an overload of it. To each their own. We have to respect that.
@ HostingCouple First off , WELCOME to Swing Heaven!!!!! and specially the forums!!! We might seem like a little bit clique-like, but we have so few people really entering the forums to read, that it only seems like it is just a few of us always answering/commenting and posting new articles. I myself think most people can not really read anymore, thus the clique appearance. I so enjoyed to read your very accurate comment on the latest forum SDMR posted on kink and abuse that I had to go and read you guy`s profile. Great was my interest to read that you guys had a getaway holiday accommodation it for the monthly swingers parties only or is it for any old time??? As for the ethnic question we had so many debates over the last 2 years about people and their choices. The last one was quite a LONG interaction , you might like to go read it and if you do browse back you will find ethnic orientation does get discussed quite a lot. Anyway just wanted to welcome you guys to SH....
Read there profile and don't think the rules allowed people to advertise there business on the site.
So, let's create a hypothetical situation here . . . . . . A couple (regardless of race) finds themselves in a room with naked, well looked after, clean, hygienic, almost perfect bodied, well spoken beauties. one of them is Indian, another is Mixed Race, another is African, another is Caucasian and one is Oriental. All 5 of these beauties are similar in everything except skin colour . . . . . . . these beauties are presented to this said couple with the only condition being, if you play with one, you have to play with them all . . . . . . I somehow doubt that more than 15% of couples presented with this opportunity would walk away from it. This is a sex related site people, log onto if you want to voice your race issues. And SDMR calmly takes his place up against the wall . . . . . . .
Racism, racial division, ethnic preference, discrimination.... These things exist. They have always existed and will always exist. If the world realises this and accepts it, it would actually be a better place. People are hell-bent on combatting these issues instead of accepting that as long we are human we will have free choice... And in turn will always make up our own minds regardless of what others want us to believe. For the most part, I believe it is mostly preference on this site anyway. I don't like Volks Wagen, so I won't ever buy one - regardless of what anyone says to try and change my mind - it is a preference and my personal choice. A couple or person not wanting to engage with someone of a certain ethnic group is exercising there freedom of choice. This goes far beyond race... Religion, financial status, employment designation, etc, etc, etc... The world is devided and its going to stay that way - forever! Accept it and live your life as you choose... Live and let live.
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Racism, racial division, ethnic preference, discrimination.... These things exist. They have always existed and will always exist. If the world realises this and accepts it, it would actually be a better place. People are hell-bent on combatting these issues instead of accepting that as long we are human we will have free choice... And in turn will always make up our own minds regardless of what others want us to believe. For the most part, I believe it is mostly preference on this site anyway. I don't like Volks Wagen, so I won't ever buy one - regardless of what anyone says to try and change my mind - it is a preference and my personal choice. A couple or person not wanting to engage with someone of a certain ethnic group is exercising there freedom of choice. This goes far beyond race... Religion, financial status, employment designation, etc, etc, etc... The world is devided and its going to stay that way - forever! Accept it and live your life as you choose... Live and let live.

ja ja ja ja, so what you are suggesting then is that because you don't like VDub, I can't park my Golf in your driveway?
No, that is not what you are saying, you are not even highlighting the fact (apart for this purpose) that you do not like VDub, so why then, I wonder, do people have to voice their race preference publicly? Unnecessary as far as I am concerned.
Yes, we all have preferences when it come to sexual contact, for example . . . . I know a few people who do not like uncut penis, but it is not on their profile as "cut penis only, sorry no offence, just our preference" . . . . .
I, just like most other people, have my own preferences, but I do not advertise publicly whatever they may be . . .. . . the chances of being contacted by someone outside of your race preference . . . oh fuck it, lets call a bucket a bucket, the chances of being contacted by a black person are very very low, so why the hell make a song and dance about it on your profile?
Makes sense. Wait for contacts and answer in a pm that you are not interested because of your race preferences. You can park your vw in my driveway anytime... My dogs need something to pee on. lol Please don't tell me it is a Citi???
Am I the only one who is reading the comments to this fora as sorta bitchy from everyone`s side?? Please do tell me I am wrong......
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Am I the only one who is reading the comments to this fora as sorta bitchy from everyone`s side??
Please do tell me I am wrong......

I don't get that vibe. I think we all just saying it as it is (in our opinions). We are really comfortable with each other so I think we passed the "holding back" stage. As for SDMR and I, we have our own little world we live in... You have to be certifiable to understand the lingo when we start up... He he he...
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Makes sense. Wait for contacts and answer in a pm that you are not interested because of your race preferences. You can park your vw in my driveway anytime... My dogs need something to pee on. lol Please don't tell me it is a Citi???

Stamina, one day when you are a grown up, you will understand that grown up's do not drive Citi's, those are reserved for under 25's . . . . and anyway, you have seen the pictures of the S3
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Makes sense. Wait for contacts and answer in a pm that you are not interested because of your race preferences. You can park your vw in my driveway anytime... My dogs need something to pee on. lol Please don't tell me it is a Citi???

Stamina, one day when you are a grown up, you will understand that grown up's do not drive Citi's, those are reserved for under 25's . . . . and anyway, you have seen the pictures of the S3
I just assumed... Most Blackberry users drive Citi golfs.. :lol: :lol:
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Makes sense. Wait for contacts and answer in a pm that you are not interested because of your race preferences. You can park your vw in my driveway anytime... My dogs need something to pee on. lol Please don't tell me it is a Citi???

Stamina, one day when you are a grown up, you will understand that grown up's do not drive Citi's, those are reserved for under 25's . . . . and anyway, you have seen the pictures of the S3
I just assumed... Most Blackberry users drive Citi golfs.. :lol: :lol:
And the lad is on the ball today . . . :thumbup:
And the ethnic turned into motorcar ethnic..... Ermmm did this not also happen in some fora or other, with SDMR and Stamina as the *sondebokke*???? I think you 2 should just start a thread for the 2 of you!!!!
I am sitting here laughing guys....just made me think about something.. Stamina if you know SMR is using s blackberry and what kind of car he is driving heck the 2 of you are most likely chatting....and flirting HUH HUH HUH???????? bi-curious are ya???? well I know SDMR says he is bi...But Stamina???? Just my weird sense of thought pattern.....just ignore me....
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I am sitting here laughing guys....just made me think about something..
Stamina if you know SMR is using s blackberry and what kind of car he is driving heck the 2 of you are most likely chatting....and flirting HUH HUH HUH???????? bi-curious are ya???? well I know SDMR says he is bi...But Stamina????
Just my weird sense of thought pattern.....just ignore me....

PIB, most of the forums are just Stamina and I . . . wink
But sorry to disappoint, No there is no flirting going on.
Stamina however seems to be on the road to discovering his curious side, but at this stage I am unsure if it's his Bi-Curious side or just his Curious George side, but once we get the report back about Prostate Play I am sure that part will be cleared up for us . . . . lol
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I am sitting here laughing guys....just made me think about something..
Stamina if you know SMR is using s blackberry and what kind of car he is driving heck the 2 of you are most likely chatting....and flirting HUH HUH HUH???????? bi-curious are ya???? well I know SDMR says he is bi...But Stamina????
Just my weird sense of thought pattern.....just ignore me....

PIB, most of the forums are just Stamina and I . . . wink
But sorry to disappoint, No there is no flirting going on.
Stamina however seems to be on the road to discovering his curious side, but at this stage I am unsure if it's his Bi-Curious side or just his Curious George side, but once we get the report back about Prostate Play I am sure that part will be cleared up for us . . . . lol
I am still compiling that report. One more "experiment" and I will make my findings public... What I can say though - so far so GOOD.. He he he...
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I am sitting here laughing guys....just made me think about something..
Stamina if you know SMR is using s blackberry and what kind of car he is driving heck the 2 of you are most likely chatting....and flirting HUH HUH HUH???????? bi-curious are ya???? well I know SDMR says he is bi...But Stamina????
Just my weird sense of thought pattern.....just ignore me....

PIB, most of the forums are just Stamina and I . . . wink
But sorry to disappoint, No there is no flirting going on.
Stamina however seems to be on the road to discovering his curious side, but at this stage I am unsure if it's his Bi-Curious side or just his Curious George side, but once we get the report back about Prostate Play I am sure that part will be cleared up for us . . . . lol
I am still compiling that report. One more "experiment" and I will make my findings public... What I can say though - so far so GOOD.. He he he...
Is that the sound of a squeaking hinge I hear . . . . . :doh:
@ Stamina Need I send you an emergency Ring pillow to sit on?????????
@ SDMR I know it is just you 2 guys here bantering. BUT as I am on leave lately....I know why I am here in the fora so much.....being far too HOT to do some fun things OUTSIDE the house!!! Cannot really go out in this sun (sadly), but do swim nearly 4-5 times a day just to cool off and rush back inside,wet and naked to see if something new is happening here in the fora`s. BUT what are your excuse to be so here much...?????
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@ SDMR
I know it is just you 2 guys here bantering.
BUT as I am on leave lately....I know why I am here in the fora so much.....being far too HOT to do some fun things OUTSIDE the house!!! Cannot really go out in this sun (sadly), but do swim nearly 4-5 times a day just to cool off and rush back inside,wet and naked to see if something new is happening here in the fora`s.
BUT what are your excuse to be so here much...?????

I'm just trying to get laid!! Bwa haaaaa haa haaaa!!!
But seriously. I laaaaaaf you guys. Can't go a full day without ranting with all of you. I miss Lee though. She was the only one that put me on my place... Now there is no-one keeping the demon at bay...
And I am self employed. Which means I work about 1 hour a day. lol
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@ SDMR
I know it is just you 2 guys here bantering.
BUT as I am on leave lately....I know why I am here in the fora so much.....being far too HOT to do some fun things OUTSIDE the house!!! Cannot really go out in this sun (sadly), but do swim nearly 4-5 times a day just to cool off and rush back inside,wet and naked to see if something new is happening here in the fora`s.
BUT what are your excuse to be so here much...?????

I'm just trying to get laid!! Bwa haaaaa haa haaaa!!!
But seriously. I laaaaaaf you guys. Can't go a full day without ranting with all of you. I miss Lee though. She was the only one that put me on my place... Now there is no-one keeping the demon at bay...
And I am self employed. Which means I work about 1 hour a day. lol
My boss is also a member on this site, and he really likes giving Stamina grief, says it is just because Stamina makes it so easy,
Sometimes, working for yourself has benefits. That and the wonders of technology today, you can access anything from anywhere. I Cannot sit still for longer than 5 minutes, so I often find myself behind some or other electronic device. That, and people fascinate me.
Also, unlike Stamina, I refrain from visiting Rub & Tug venues . . . :lol:
I see "HostingCouple" has been marked as "This member is currently not active." I assume that means they are suspended.
Also their About info has been "REMOVE BY ADMIN"
It would appear that they are being punished for advertising on their profile or was there something incite-full in the text?
If you go to the "Parties" tab you'll find several profiles advertising pay to enter events there.
These members even have pics of their facilitates on their profile, with no people in the pic.
Is that acceptable?
If so, why was HostingCouple not informed and give the opportunity to correct things?
Nimfie as an old Mod i can give you my word that they had the opportunity to correct there advert by putting in a support ticket to admin. You can read the rules of the site and that will clear the matter for you why people cant use there profiles to promote there business.
Again, Profiles are not be used for advertising, I get that but how can advertising, pay to enter events, in the 'Parties' tab be ok? At the same time those people use their profiles to show pics of their venue. This has been openly going on for a long time now. If that is an acceptable loophole, why not make that known to those who wish to advertise on this site, instead of suspending them?
Point taken, think it would be a good suggestion to Admin, make use of the support system and put your proposal to them and they might looked into it. Out of experience knew that Admin looked to members questions and proposals
If this couple has been suspended I am REALLY thinking it a GREAT LOSS, Did you guys ever read the gents very articulate and GREAT comment made on a fora SDMR started. I know this fora was a little steam off blowing one,the gent was little cross about the *race* issues, we all have our little fora`s on which we blow off steam. So he was mostly entitled to Blow off some was NOT rude or even abusive as some peeps that post race issue fora`s are. I myself found it interesting that they have a party venue that they host. AS I was thinking when reading their profile ,about NawtyCat the ONE COUPLE here in the fora`s that was asking for someone to give them info for a nice getaway venue where they could be naked and free for a little away this new couple seems to have the ideal place. NOW I read they are suspended JUST like that!!!!!! Really ??????? we want more genuine SH people to feel welcome and at home and what do we do..Eish!!!!
Yes PIB, I did not get a chance to read their profile before it was deleted but I also feel that they contributed positively to SH. Again If you look at the 'Parties' tab there are other profiles that blatantly push their business and they have been going strong for many months now. Hence my Statement about Double standards.
PIB it would not have been "just like that" - or at least it shouldn't be. If Admin was behind the move, there is a protocol. The profile had been 'suspended' but it's still there. They will be in discussion with Steve at this point about what they may or may not use SH for.