Meet up problems

So, Ive been here for a few years, give or take the months I took breaks. Still, nothing's changed. You see someone you like, it advances to instant chat then the crap begins.

Some men lie about being married etc and want to meet at awkward times. Also some want or expect to fuck that day ,the first time you meet. I am not into this, no I don't want to get married etc but what ever happened to manners and meet and greet? 

I've made it clear that I want friends with benefits. Meaning we friends so we chat and do what friends do with the extra benefit of having sex. Well, that's my understanding. Am I wrong?

I've been old I'm uptight and I'm full of shit all because I'm on a sex site but I don't want to fuck. As far as I am aware this is a swingers lifestyle website. Sex is the main thing yes but its about being amongst like minded people you can feel comfortable with right? I have an awesome group of couples and singles I play with on a regular, and we all have the perfect understanding. I'm just tired if playing as a single. But I can't introduce someone to decent people like that that doesn't understand what the lifestyle is about. 

These men I am talking about are the same ones that have the mentality that woman on this site just wants sex or can be called horny, bitch, whore, slut or sex addict ( including during sex) I hate that! And the line "well I joined this site to fuck and all you want is chemistry first" is starting to get to me and make me miss being vanilla.  

@ Sofistikitty,  How nice to see you are still onsite!!! And nicely active!!!, although the same old, same old issues remain a pain in your and I am sure a lot of single ladies asses!!!

Still organising parties, for the peeps ???

Thanks for the welcome back. no I dont organise hey, was too much admin and drama. Yes somethings never change

I really hope I never do that to any lady, if anything, they will tell me I am too much of a gentleman 

You are not the first nor will you the last to  share similar views and stories.

I have noticed and mentioned on previous threads the lack of manner and Tact. Guys have gone lazy and assume that they Gods gift to women and everyone is just waiting for them. It’s tired and annoying and I see guys approaches more and more showing nothing new and unique. And when the get rejected then they go on the defensive and get ugly. Grow up guys! 

So I am sure you know that among the thorns there are a few roses and hope that they don’t stop you from smelling the good ones as they say.

I have found it so so difficult to arrange normal dates or drinks or lunches with people as everyone thinks I want sex or something in return, which is pretty sad. Too much focus and emphasis is placed on sex and climaxes 

Anyhow if ever u want a real date with a gentleman so that u can rewrite this thread letting people know that good guys do exist