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To call any lady a Gold digger is In my opinion a very rude we then call the older gent a cradle snatcher?
What do we call younger men hooking up with an older woman also Gold Diggers??? or just bloody lazy bums, to lazy to work so they live off older woman??
Heck, each to his or her own I usually say.
In this lifestyle there is a place for everyone with each their own way of living.
WHO are we to show a finger at anyone??
IF the couple is happy, why should they care what someone else thinks???
A good age difference between a gent and lady is 5 to 8 years. In favor of the gent being the older are way more mature than men.
I know that in my own opinion, older gents makes way better lovers than younger I can just think those sexy younger ladies also KNOWS this little golden fact.
Most ladies here hold down a job, have a household to kids to look after and a hubby to keep happy.
Being married to a man with a previous marriage is also not easy, the first wife and kids take a lot of the gents money and time, and sometimes the second wife has to support the first wife and her demands, monetary wise.
And as the saying goes...*why be a young mans slave when you can be a older gents princess?*
To even suggest a gent can NOT satisfy his own wife ,that is why he is in the lifestyle,is also very rude and pompous.
NOW remember one does NOT have to have a LARGE penis to satisfy a lady,there is MANY ways to keep ladies satisfied.
If you are thinking this due to men who can not get *it up*
If an gent or you can not get an erection during play,there is some underlying REASONS.
1)It could be that he does not find YOUR spouse sexually attractive,you will also get your NON erectile penis problems should this happen to YOU,where you do not find the lady of the couple, sexually attractive.
2)Get *stage* fright where it is a first time out in the world of swing.
3) The way someone talk during a sexual interlude, can put you off your sexual drive(you ,having a problem with a little dirty bedroom talk, as said so yourself in a previous forum
4)The lady does something like entering her little finger in your ass while you are busy shagging her, then YOUR once proud erect penis droops down,and flops out of her , like a deflated balloon.
5) Your spouse is making so much noise due to enjoying herself with another man , you are listening to her and cannot concentrate or satisfy the lady of the other couple,you also get a problem staying / getting erect.
See, lots of things can prevent a erection to happen,during a play session.
What you gonna do??
Be known as someone who CANNOT satisfy his own wife??? that is why you joined the swingers lifestyle???
Can you now see why I say, IT IS RUDE, to think any older gent and someone who cannot get an erection during play or likes to watch while his wife is being shagged,is not MAN enough????thus needing someone else to satisfy her???
Only a person who does NOT have a swingers mindset thinks like this.
I am also always interested in whom made the first request to *liven* things up a bit...and I can say in 95% it is gonna be the male!!!!! and it is the lady who is trying to Keep her hubby from straying.(my own first contact with swingers was due to a older gent and me trying to hang on,wrote about it in the story section) if you wanted to go check it out.)
BUT I also personally know swinger couples who made this choice together after some fantasy bedroom play.
I personally also know 2 ladies who made this suggestion to their hubbies, and NOT because their hubbies is incapable of satisfying them.
Anyone who joins a swinging community trying to overcome problem like a hubby from straying,or any other problem is doomed from the start.
But then this is just my view on things.
Well, PIB I think you said what I wanted to say , just with more diplomacy... Thats something I dont always get right, coz as a coach, its often my job to tell someone straight...
In a nutshell, that was a rude, inconsiderate, judgemental and assumptive comment.
You absolutely cannot BEGIN your journey in a stance of judgement on people, perhaps whom you have/will never meet. You can not make such comment without knowing them.
You certainly, I think, are quite lucky that the vast majority of members do not use the forums, because quite frankly your post here would put most people off ever even chatting to you. Nevermind meeting.
My advice.. If you want meet anyone from this site... I suggest you very quickly adjust you view point.
when answering you MUST make sure you quote and wash the right peoples washing. and not get mix one persons problem with another MRS P. 
all i did is see what happens if a person lets a cat lose in between the pigeons. and sorry if i offened you and mac. but to think you can confuse me with some other man that has erection problems. 
all i did is see what happens if a person lets a cat lose in between the pigeons. and sorry if i offened you and mac. but to think you can confuse me with some other man that has erection problems. @ Joyrider
What happened to your first post? It's supposed to stay there so that everybody can follow the forum threads?
It's OK if you start a posting (shake the tree to see what falls from it ....) and not getting what you asked for / or getting the wrong vibes from it. I know it's also tough - (as the old adage) - when you present yourself as a toffee you're going to be licked.
Just go with the punches and when you hit back (focus on the contents/arguments and not the person) still be the gentleman, that you are!
hi gerrie,
with the last posting it seemed as if i offended many people that is why i removed it . i am not here to make enemies but to try and find some friends. and the fact that some people confuse me with someone else. well did not go down right. so once again i am sorry if i offended some people but when the people read the threads i think you call it they should stick to the content of the thread and not take a personal attack on the person that placed the thread. especially when they confuse a person with another.
thank you
rider
Would have liked to read that post
But PIB mentions a number of good points
Older men have more experiance, erectile pronlems and all.
I loose it when sidetracked expecially if my wife is noisy, then I want to watch her, my greatest pleasure
Second mariage, I took my mistakes from the first and tectified them in the second, we actually compliment each other and satisfy each other sexually but everyone has a naughty side and we try to please each other's
